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Birth records for Marcia Trotman (nee Pool)

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Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 09:54

Hi,

I am trying to add the Pool relations to my family tree. I have a relation William Pool (I beileve born around 1920 in the Worksop area but I have no other information even as to marriage), according to information I have he had 2 daughters Carla and Marcia neither which I can find in records. Information I have is that Marcia Trotman died 11/3/98, and I have the found entry for the death (which states the birth was 10/11/1940). I have been searching the birth records but can find no corresponding entry under Pool or Poole? I there any way I can trace the birth
Regards
Mark

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 09:59

The maiden name will be on the death cert

If the parents didn't marry, the daughters may have been registered under the mother's name

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 10:00

There is no marriage for a Marcia to a Trotman on Ancestry......

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 10:02

As the lady is deceased......................

Name: Marcia Carol N Trotman
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1940
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 1998
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: B68C
District and Subdistrict: 5691B
Entry number: 113

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 10:04

No birth on Ancestry for a Marcia C N

Perhaps she was born outside of England/Wales..........

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 10:05

Suggest you start by verifying the details for William, which seem sketchy, at best.

Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 10:10

Hi,

Thanks for the help.

I am working from an old solitcitor's from America in 1990's when they were tracing relations for a distant American relation. It states that Marcia Trotman had children Dorothy, Dawn, Lesley, Graham, Robert, Angela and Ronald. I did a check on findmypast for births and these between 1958 and 1969 show Trotman as father and Poole as mother.

So does mean that Marcia's parents never married and unless I get her deathe certificate I won't know the maiden name?

Regards
Marl

Flick

Flick Report 19 Oct 2010 10:16

The births to which you refer are in LANCS, apart from Ronald's

Any of the birth certs will tell you the correct name for the mother............

Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 10:17

Hi,

William's parent's were William Poole born (1883-1926) borm Ikeston derbyshire. Living in Whitwell 1911 having married Ethel Chambers in 1908.
According to letter from the solicitors had three children Emily, Dorothy and William
Corresponds to births in the Worksop area Beatrice Emily (1909), Dorothy Ivy (1910) and William C (1920). According to letter William Jnr died September 1993/1994

Mark

Irene

Irene Report 19 Oct 2010 10:18

Its just a though, would they have been born aboard or Scotland as it was the war. I have had a look and found her full name Marcia Carol N Trotman in the burials, so I looked for Marcia C born 1940 with 2 years round (nothing under Carol) and could not find anything with an N following.

Will keep looking

Irene

Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 10:22

Irene and Flick,

Many thanks for your help. I have to sign off for the being. I will beack this afternoon. If you do find anything more it will be appreciated.

Thanks
Mark

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Oct 2010 10:26

this looks like William
Name: William C Pool
Mother's Maiden Surname: Chambers
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920
Registration district: Worksop
Registration county: Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 124

If marcia was born 1940 this would make him 20 yeras old at the time

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Oct 2010 10:28

and his death
Name: William Charles Pool
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1993
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Rochdale
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: B40A
District and Subdistrict: 0091B
Entry number: 189

So wonder who the informant was ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Oct 2010 10:46

Cant see any marriage on Scotlands People OR a birth for Marcia on there either

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Oct 2010 11:00

Suggest you get the birth cert for one of Marcias children this will give the parents names,
As the 1st child was born in 1958 Marcia would have been c 18 years old.
Marcia' death cert of 1998 will show her place of birth as known by the informant

Irene

Irene Report 19 Oct 2010 11:09

I decided to look at the sisters and see where that will lead, Beatrice emily married a clifton V Croome 1927 in Worksop can't find any children, Dorothy Ivy married Charles S Dalton 3 possible children
John C 1930 Billericay
Raymond S 1933 Preston
Cynthia J 1942 Chorley
Dorothy Ivy Dalton died April 2001 West Lancashire aged 91 born 27.1.1910
Still looking
Irene

Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 11:41

Hi,

Many thanks for your help, certainly a mystery and intriguing.

Never got birth certificates for living people, don't you need exta infromation for certificates less than 50 years old?

Mark

Mark

Mark Report 19 Oct 2010 11:49

Hi Irene,

Thanks for that. The information I had on Beatrice Emily was slightly different from what had, the solicitors said William's daughter Emily (it was common for mother's side of the family to use the middle) was called Hunt, so I assumed she married someone called but Hunt but admittedly I found this.

they did say Dorothy Ivy become Dorothy Dalton of Preston

Regards
Mark

Irene

Irene Report 19 Oct 2010 13:57

Hi Mark

Well I found a Clifton V Croome death 1955 Nottingham aged 58, Beatrice Emily remarried 1966 to a Leonard F Hunt Southwell, its funny but I ask for a remarriage but it never came up so just put in croome 1965 10 years either side and up it came. I've noticed this happens some times. I will check again to see if she had any children.
Irene

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Oct 2010 15:07

there wont be any problem getting the 1958 birth for Ronald as its over the 50 years