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kay

kay Report 7 Mar 2008 19:32

Hi Ive got my family on 1901 census,and cant see them at all before that.
Richard Biggs aged 33 born shropshire wall
Ann wife
Annie daughter 15
Fanny daughter 12
William son 8
Ernest 4mths
All born in differant parts of shropshire.I just cant find anywhere on any other census.Would be grateful if some kind person had time to take a look.Ernest was my grandfather,and have been stuck here for weeks.Thanks Kay.

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 19:42

I wonder if this is Richard in 1891


VICKERS, William Head Married M 29 General Labourer
Wolverhampton
VICKERS, Louisa Wife Married F 26
Walsall
VICKERS, William Son M 2
Barrow In Furness
Lancashire
VICKERS, George Son M 1
Barrow In Furness
Lancashire



BIGGS, Richard Boarder Single M 26 General Labourer
Wolverhampton


RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3484 Folio:
63 Page:
13

Registration District:
Barrow In Furness Sub District:
Barrow In Furness EnumerationDistrict:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthew

Civil Parish:
Barrow In Furness Municipal Borough:
Barrow Address:
30, Maple Street, Barrow In Furness, Barrow County:
Lancashire





kay

kay Report 7 Mar 2008 19:48

Hi Thats quite possible ,isnt it .I didnt think to look for him without a family.Can you see him any earlier?Thanks Kay

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 19:51

I am wondering Richard is Ann's second husband. On the 1891 he is down as single but there is quite a gap on the 1901 for his children - 8 years - between William & Ernest.

Do you know when Ann & Richard married?

Nicki

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Mar 2008 19:54

Free BMD:
Richard Biggs married Ann Jackson, 1894, Ch. Stretton.
On the 91 census there's an Ann Jackson in Church Stretton with daughters Annie 5 and Fanny E. 2. Says she's married but no husband there. However she has a sister living with her who's single and surname is Carter, so Ann must have been a Carter married to a Jackson.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Mar 2008 19:55

Looks as if he didn't get married till 1894

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<<Biggs Richard Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
<<Jackson Ann Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
Lloyd Nora Rebecca Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
Tranter John Smart Ch. Stretton 6a 1067


And this is probably Ann with 2 children in 1891

1891 England Census
about Ann Jackson
Name: Ann Jackson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Eaton, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Church Stretton
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Stretton
Town: Church Stretton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Carter 26
Ann Jackson 30
Annie Jackson 5
Fanny E Jackson 2
Annie Lloyd 7
William Lloyd 9


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2089; Folio 7; Page 5

Christine

Cathy in Portsmouth

Cathy in Portsmouth Report 7 Mar 2008 19:56

Name: Richard Biggs
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Church Stretton
County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 1067 (click to see others on page)

There is an Ann Jackson on the same page.
Same registration district where they were living in 1901
Cathy

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 19:57

Based on info from Margaret - Here is Richard & Ann's marriage ref detail -

Marriages Sep 1894


Biggs Richard Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
Jackson Ann Ch. Stretton 6a 1067

Nicki

Cathy in Portsmouth

Cathy in Portsmouth Report 7 Mar 2008 19:58

Name: Ernest George Biggs
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Church Stretton
County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 567 (click to see others on page)

Youngest child birth registration
cathy

kay

kay Report 7 Mar 2008 19:59

Hi Nicola ,No i dont .I was wondering that myself.I cant make out Anns age in 1901 ,Ive got totally stuck on this one.There doesnt seem to be loads of Richards,back through the years.and shropshire wall has completly thrown me Appreciate your help.Kay

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Mar 2008 20:00

Marriage for Richard and ann?


Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>Biggs Richard Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
>>>>Jackson Ann Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
Lloyd Nora Rebecca Ch. Stretton 6a 1067
Tranter John Smart Ch. Stretton 6a 1067

Ann 1891. Childrens names and births seem OK




1891 England Census
about Annie Jackson
Name: Annie Jackson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Eaton, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Church Stretton
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Stretton
Town: Church Stretton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Carter 26
Ann Jackson 30
Annie Jackson 5
Fanny E Jackson 2
Annie Lloyd 7
William Lloyd 9


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2089; Folio 7; Page 5; GSU roll: 6097199.

Andy






MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Mar 2008 20:00

Ann's first marriage:
Ann Carter & George Jackson, Dec. Q, 1885, Ch. Stretton. (6a 1159)

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 20:03

Ann's birth?

Births Sep 1861

CARTER Ann Wolverhampton 6b 388

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 20:05

Fanny's birth

Births Mar 1889

Jackson Fanny Elizabeth Ch. Stretton 6a 561

kay

kay Report 7 Mar 2008 20:06

Hi Thanks everybody.Church stretton is definately the place.I found that marriage ref,but wasnt sure.With the other bits youve found,put the pieces together.Is it possible to find him with parents? Kay

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Mar 2008 20:06

After looking again at the 1891 census, I believe Ann Jackson was a widow. It looks like Md. but for the others it's just M for married and I think hers is Wid.

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 20:07

Annie's birth

Births Jun 1886


Jackson Annie Ch Stretton 6a 695

kay

kay Report 7 Mar 2008 20:12

Hi All .Cant keep up with you all ,so quick off the mark.Can anybody see Richard on earlier census ,please.Thanks Kay

Nicki

Nicki Report 7 Mar 2008 20:13

William's birth

Births Dec 1892

Jackson William Richard Ch. Stretton 6a 537

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Mar 2008 20:40

It's difficult to find him in earlier censuses because in 1901 he says born 1868 Wall, Shropshire and if that's him that Nicola found in 1891 it says born 1865, Wolverhampton.