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Robert Smailes 1887

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Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 26 Jan 2009 13:06

Would anyone please be kind enough to look up some information for me. I am looking for information on My Great Grandad Robert Smailes, He was born 1887 ( i don't know what month )and died 7 November 1948 in Stannington Northumberland. I do know he was a General Labourer, One of his sons was called William Smailes ( born 22.4.1922 ) What i would like to know is if there is a marriage listed and who to? and what address he was listed at if possible.

Many thanks
Teresa

Sam

Sam Report 26 Jan 2009 13:10

You can look this up yourself on FreeBMD...

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Renner Elizabeth Smailes Morpeth 10b 808
Smailes Robert Renner Morpeth 10b 808

And William's birth...

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
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Smailes William R Renner Morpeth 10b 910


Sam

Sam Report 26 Jan 2009 13:12

More children...

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
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Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
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Smailes Jane R Renner Morpeth 10b 887

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Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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SMAILES Richard R RENNER Morpeth 10b 879

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Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
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Smailes Thomas G Renner Morpeth 10b 822

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Births Sep 1930 (>99%)
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Smailes John R Renner Morpeth 10b 690

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 26 Jan 2009 13:19

FOUND THESE BIRTHS BUT A MARRIAGE IN 1908 IN DURHAM HAS TWO FEMALES MARRYING! WEBB AND SMAILES SAME INDEX NO'S

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
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Smailes Jane Webb Alnwick 10b 1000

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Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>Smailes William Webb Alnwick 10b 941

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Births Sep 1925 (93%)
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Smailes Albert Webb Alnwick 10b 865

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Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
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Smailes Joyce Webb Morpeth 10b 694

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Births Jun 1932 (74%)
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Smailes Annie Webb Newcastle T. 10b 140

CASSANDRA

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 26 Jan 2009 13:21

Hello Kirstie, Pretty sure it was Amble area, sorry can't be more exact with this.

Sam from Stoke, Thanks i will go to freebmd. I know there was deff a Jane Smailes, I am pleased that you have maybe found the wife Elizabeth Renner ? ( this being the surname am i right in saying that )

Paula i am sure it was 1887 because he died in 1948 aged 61. I will keep looking tho'.

Thanks everyone.

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 26 Jan 2009 13:24

Cassandra Lisa, they are deff the births of my dads Aunty and Uncles thanks very much, but regards the two females marrying in 1908 in Durham no too sure about that one lol!

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 26 Jan 2009 13:32

I GOT THAT FROM FREEBMD.ORG SO HOPEFULLY ON THE SAME PAGE THERE ARE 2 MALES!!!

MAYBE 1908 IS TOO EARLY FOR YOUR G GRANDADS MARRIAGE

CASSANDRA

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 26 Jan 2009 13:40

Cassandra, it could be his marriage, he was 21 in 1908 so could be right, i am not going to dismiss it at the moment. Lets hope we can find the two males next.

I am getting a bit confused with it,

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 27 Jan 2009 11:33

iF he married Elizabeth Renner in 1920 he would have been 33, i think maybe he was to old ???? - sorry just clutching at straws a bit and trying to get it straight in my head. I thought that there was an Edmund Smailes listed as one of the brothers of William, Albert, Jane and Joyce. Nobody seems to know about the Annie Smailes born JUNE 1932.

I have been trying to get onto freebmd.org this morning to double check the info i have, but i am struggling a bit. oh well i'll keep trying.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 27 Jan 2009 13:07

Hi Teresa
I've just looked on the complete marriage index for Mar Q 1908, there is Robert Smailes
Sunderland
Mar Q 1908
vol: 10a
pg: 840

unfortunately it doesn't match up to the Ellen Webb from freebmd :-(

cassandra

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 27 Jan 2009 13:26

Hi Cassandra, Thanks for that it is a problem isn't it.? i'm not sure where to go from here.

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 27 Jan 2009 18:41

I can't find a birth for Robert Smailes on freebmd, is there anyone who could try for me, He died in 1948 aged 61. I am also confused about his marriage, any help would be great x

Many thanks Teresa.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 27 Jan 2009 18:49

IS THIS HIM TERESA??

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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SMAILES Robert Sunderland 10a 530

CASSANDRA

EDIT: OR THIS ONE

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Smailes Robert Durham 10a 323

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 27 Jan 2009 19:11

AAhh Cassandra, thanks how did you find him ?

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 27 Jan 2009 19:15

JUST ENTERED HIS NAME FROM 1886-1888!!

STUCK LUCKY!!

CASSANDRA

Teresa L.A.

Teresa L.A. Report 27 Jan 2009 19:17

Thanks very much, another project for tomorrow then. lol ! Thanks again for all your help very much appreciated.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 27 Jan 2009 19:21

YOU'RE WELCOME!
HE'S CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE!

CASSANDRA

Christine

Christine Report 28 Jan 2009 02:54

hi terisa i live in stannington village morpeth northumberland if i can be of any help
regards chris

jansmith

jansmith Report 28 Jan 2009 05:18

If you got the William birth cert.it will give details to confirm names to then get a marriage cert.
offical site you can get them from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
cost £7 using index(GRO) numbers on freebmd.
Hope that helps

jansmith

jansmith Report 28 Jan 2009 05:51

Details of a Robert Smailes Army pension record (Details of 1908 marriage!)
No 67693
R.H.R.F.A (60th Wearside Brigade RFA)
11 Dryburgh St (think thats right) Sunderland
Age 27years 10mths (date 9th March 1915)* if my maths is right then birth about July 1887 which could be the Sept. quarter birth index
Height 5feet 3inches
Glass maker
wife Ann
marriage
Ann Platts Spinster
Sunderland
27th feb 1908
CHILDREN
Maggie May 11th May 1908
Robert 2nd Aug 1909
Sydney 20th March 1911
Elizabeth 17th Nov 1913

Discharged 5/7/15 medical reasons
Total service 116 days

There is also this index but no pension/service records on Ancestry

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Robert Smailes Northumberland Fusiliers, Labour Corps 1281, 606388