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looking for Eliza Liley b1826 st pancras on the 1841 census......I have found her on all other census so only looking for her in 1841.........parents John and Mary

Did she have siblings? Just wondering whether John might have remarried:

Civil parish: St Anne Limehouse

John Lilley 53
John Lilley 25
Harriet Lilley 52
Louisa Lilley 21
Eliza Lilley 17

unfortunately I dont know if she had siblings - she married in 1845 so my only hope was 1841 census

Sorry ignore that!
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father john was a boot maker born c1800 middlesex

I have now found who I think are John and Mary on 1841 census but no Eliza........cannot seem to find John and Mary after the 1841 census - can anyone find them in the later census

Stephen, it would help if you would provide what you find - you've found it, but we have to go looking for it! Just copy the census info.

Do you have the marriage cert for Eliza to confirm the occupation of father as bootmaker

yes, I do have the MC to confirm this

If you don't have her on a census, how do you know her parents are John and Mary? A baptism record?

Name: John Lalley
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St James Dukes Place
Hundred: London Within the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: London
Sub-registration district: London North East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lalley 40
Mary Lalley 29
John Lalley 7

I know this from her baptism on IGI............PLUS confirmation from someone who knew her husbands side of the family

ELIZABETH LILLY Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
28 JUN 1826
Christening:
30 JUL 1826 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN LILLY Family
Mother: MARY

Yup, saw that one. You refer to her at the beginning of this thread as

ELIZA LILEY

and the baptism is for

ELIZABETH LILLY

You say at the beginning she was born in St Pancras, and the baptism is in Shoreditch.

Silly me, I was looking for someone with the name you gave, in the location you gave!


Name: Elizabeth Lilley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch

Elizabeth Burgad 30
Elizabeth Lilley 15


I'd have a look at that one.

The 1841 census you have:


John Lalley 40
Mary Lalley 29
John Lalley 7


It isn't really very likely that someone aged 29 has a child aged 15.


I would wonder about this household in St Leonard Shoreditch:

John Lilley 50 (I can't read his occupation - Timber ?)
Mary Maria 40
John Maria 20
William Maria 22
Eliza Baker 15

(as ridiculously transcribed by Ancestry)


You know her father's occupation from her marriage certificate? The DOB you give for him is a guess?

the information I gave was correct - she was born st pancras but baptised Shoreditch............there was so many variations of Liley - Lily, Lilly, Lilley, Liley even Lalley.........I am not entirely sure which is correct

i see what you mean about them having a 15yr old............maybe we just havent found them all in 1841

There is also this young lady. She is a female servant.

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DELANEY, John M 35 1806 Ireland
DELANEY, Sarah F 30 1811
DELANEY, Eleanor A F 5 1836 Middlesex
DELANEY, John M 5 1836 Middlesex
DELANEY, Louisa F 4 1837 Middlesex
DELANEY, Andrew M 2 1839 Middlesex
DELANEY, George S M 0 (8 months) 1841 Middlesex
DELANEY, Andrew M 25 1816 Ireland
LILLY, Elisa F 15 1826 Middlesex <<<<<<<<<<<<
HUGHES, George M 15 1826 Middlesex
STAFFORD, Richard M 55 1786 Middlesex

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
719 Book/Folio:
9/7 Page:
11

Registration District:
London Sub District:
London, South East EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Allhallows Staining Municipal Borough:
London Address:
Mark Lane, Allhallows Staining, London County:
Middlesex

Where did she marry? Do you have her husband in the 1841?

she married Joseph Coles June 1845 St pancras.......she I have him in 1841 . Eliza is not with him