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Can anyone please locate Frank Alfred EMPTAGE, b. 1881 in Margate,Kent according to other census.?
In 1901 he is shown as surname LINPTEGE....

RG13; Piece: 822; Folio: 9; Page: 9.

do you have any other family members? There are a few Emptages on 1911 in Kent.

Assume this is his birth:

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
Emptage Frank Alfred Thanet 2a 880

Jan

1881 - found this

Stephen John EMPTAGE Head M Male 44 Margate, Kent, England Licensed Victualler
Mary EMPTAGE Wife M Female 43 Wingham, Kent, England Licensed Victualler
Rosina EMPTAGE Daur U Female 19 Margate, Kent, England (Inn Serv)
Stephen F. EMPTAGE Son U Male 17 Margate, Kent, England Licensed Victualler
Jessie M. EMPTAGE Daur U Female 16 Margate, Kent, England (Inn Serv)
Alice E. EMPTAGE Daur U Female 14 Margate, Kent, England Scholar
Dasie L. EMPTAGE Daur Female 12 Margate, Kent, England Scholar
Dora E. EMPTAGE Daur Female 8 Margate, Kent, England Scholar
Herbert S. EMPTAGE Son Male 6 Margate, Kent, England Scholar
Frank O. EMPTAGE Son Male 5 Margate, Kent, England Scholar
Mary A. WILSON Boarder Female 8 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Eliza NOTSON Serv U Female 22 London, Middlesex, England Servant Domestic
Alfred BUTCHER Serv U Male 20 Rochester, Kent, England Potman (Inn)
Betty SNOOKS Visitor M Female 60 Ireland
J.J. WHER Visitor M Male 45 Sheerness, Kent, England Annuitant


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Source Information:
Dwelling George Inn
Census Place Margate St John Baptist, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341234
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0985 / 93
Page Number 8

Thank you for your interest Janet.

Frank is on the very edge of our tree, but I like to find out more about anyone.
In 1933 he married Emily MARSH and was shown on the cert as a widower,50, a stage carpenter. By then his father, Albert John, a boatman was deceased

I can't see an obvious marriage on freebmd, so thought finding him in 1911, might possibly find him married.
I think he didn't die until 1970s, but that's just from index.

Emily at some stage must have left him? because by late 1940s she was having a child with someone else and travelling to South Africa. Later she married yet another man in Bristol.

Gwyn

Thank you Vera.

That is a different Frank, I believe.
Births Dec 1875
Emptage Frank Orlando ..Thanet 2a 800

Births Sep 1881
Emptage Frank Alfred ..Thanet 2a 880

It seems to have been a popular choice of name for the EMPTAGEs in that area!

Gwyn

His (step)mother & brother Herbert:

EMPTAGE HERBERT M 1901 10 Thanet Kent
EMPTAGE NELLY F 1877 34 Thanet Kent

Jan

Gwyn, Just read your reply to Janet I obviously have the wrong one....will delete....


Regards Vera

for everyone's reference:

901
Name Age
Albert Linptege 53
Nellie L Linptege 24
Frank A Linptege 19
Herbert J Linptege 8 months

Obviously father's 2nd marriage!

Have put correction to ancestry.

Struggling to find Frank in 1911.

Jan

Thank you Ann, but I think that's Frank Orlando, b. 1875 and not the Frank b. 1881.

Off to look at Herbert..... thank you Janet.

Gwyn

Janet
Note the ages...... Frank married someone at least 20 years his junior, when he married in 1933 too..

Gwyn

Have found this marriage - a bit unlikely, but having said that cannot find Frank Empett in 1911 either!

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
EMPETT Frank Bridge 2a 1889
Finnis Florence E Bridge 2a 1889

Jan

The only Frank I can find who might vaguely fit: (specified Kent as birthplace)

EMPTAGE FRANK M 1885 26 Poplar London

Do you have an occupation for Frank?

Jan

Found this Frank on the 1911....living in Poplar....

HOUSEHOLD EMPTAGE FRANK M 1885 26 Poplar London

Regards Vera

Snap Jan !!!

Regards Vera

Snap to you too!

Janet....ooh and Vera too
You're working hard on this... Thank you.

I wondered about that Frank in 1911, but thought he was likely to be this one....?

Births Sep 1884

Emptage Frank ..Thanet 2a 942

What do you think?

Off to check out that marriage now.

Gwyn

If you are concerned about the YOB don't be, it could just about be that far out.
What about his occupation?
Jan

He was a carpenter in 1901

Using advanced search I put Emptage occ stage carpenter and it comes up with Frank 1885 living Poplar.

It might be the age is hard to read so the transcriber got it wrong

The Frank I am searching was a carpenter in 1901 census.

He was a stage carpenter when he married Emily in 1933, so would expect something similar in 1911.

Gwyn

Well, specifying carpenter on 1911 comes up with the same Frank in Poplar. It's so close I would pay to have a look.
Jan