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Hi all
Would anyone have access to baptisms for All Saints Church Lewisham for the period 1865-1885 or any of the other churches in that area.
I am trying to find a possible baptism of Martin Alexander Walter KADREWELL. I have just discovered a new lead saying thats where he was born in 1868/9. Even though I have been unable to find a birth record.
Any help appreciated its been a 13 year search so far.
Thanks Alison

Hi Alison,
No one with even that spelled surname appears in London Bapt,
Edit,
Any chance his surname may have been altered?

Martin Alexander---Wikison,

1869 Sept-Greenwich
-1d-744.
he is the only Martin Alexander bn in timescale

Thanks for the reply Kay.

Thats the million dollar question. Our family is the only family I have ever come across with that name, and only his offspring and down. He married in 1892 in Jersey and lied about his birth place then, but his Merchant Marine records have always said London. Family rumour says he was possibly from Ceylon, which could mean his name was KATHIRAVEL/KADIRAVEL anglicised a bit.
So you see my problem.
I got the blackheath from his medal card, which is the only thing which has ever mentioned an area other than just London.
I do know his father was called William and occupation was a planter.

Really appreciate your help,
Thank you

Alison

That surname spelling doesnt show up on IGI either,,,,,maybe he was born overseas,,,,,but that spelling isnt in GRO,or anything like it,,,,,,,,Alexander has Scottish ring to it,,?

I was just looking for WIKISON on ancestry see if it shows up on census just as a hope. Is that definately how it was spelt as I don't seem to be able to find any reference to it. May I also enquire where you found it?

Thanks again ALison

William a planter..... ?
Sounds as if it could well be overseas...

Gwyn

Sorry Alison

I miss typed,

WILKISON..

The only planters I can think of Gwyn would be tea, coffee indigo etc, Have you ever heard of any other versions?
That came from Martin marriage cert in 1892 by the way.

If you haven't already seen it there are lots of Kadrewells on-line at www.jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je, unfortunately not your Martin, but several of his children are there.

I have looked up the marriage of this chap before - might even have been for you - and he does give his birthplace as St Helier on his marriage certificate, but as you say if he lied about it he could have been born anywhere.

Although he appears in 6 trees on this site no-one seems to know where he was born.

A ha thanks for clarifying that Kay. Here goes, lets see if he shows up anywhere.

Thanks Jersey Lilly.
Yes they are all "mine" at the archives. Martins children as you say.
I'm fairly confident in saying all mention of the name on here, is from my research that I have passed on.

I will get to the bottom of this one day. :-)

1871 census - household transcription
Person: WILKINSON, Martin
Address: Union Street, St Nicholas, Deptford
WILKINSON, Allan Head M 41 1830 Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Margaret Wife F 35 1836 Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Ellen Daughter F 16 1855 Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Margaret Daughter F 12 1859 Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Allan Son M 4 1867 Scotland VIEW
WILKINSON, Martin Son M 2 1869 Kent


Martin was an unusual name at the time. Searching census leaving surname blank and Both London and Kent does not come up with anything definite. Not may hits at all

What are the names of his children?

I don't know if this is all of them
Willie 1893, Adeline Julia 1896, Harold 1898, Victor Reginald 1899,
Edward Alexander 1901, Ruby 1903, Claude Lionel 1907 and Raymonde 1909

Scotland can be ruled out for this surname, could he have been born in a maiden name??

Hi all

LadyKira, jerseylilly has most of his children named in her post. There were a few others that died in infancy, but those listed all survived to adulthood.

Kay he could have been born under a maiden name, but his father is listed on his marriage cert.

Thats why I got all excited about the WILKISON find last night, but alas wrong fathers name on the 1871. :-(

I think the possible way forward at the moment is to look for his baptism around blackheath london. Unfortunately I am not on mainland UK so can't look myself.

Carol, yes I have read that article. Left me with mixed emotions. He may not have been a soldier but he still ended up giving his life in a war. :-(

Thank you everyone for your input :-)

ALison :-)

Alison - have you had the chance to thoroughly check the St Helier birth indexes at the Jersey Archive? or are you absolutely sure that he lied on his marriage certificate and was not born in Jersey?

All that are on-line are the baptisms. As we have a pretty good idea of his year of birth it should be relatively simple to see if he is listed in the births. I would be inclined to check through by Christian names as the surname is so open to mistrancription.

Edit: just found him on the 1891 - Walter Caddwell - where he says he's from London

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enGB289GB290&q=Martin+Kadrewell

You may already have this but a whole article on pages
20 - 23 including a picture of the ship.

This is much later but is in the right area


Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)
Hayes Patrick Kadrewell Lewisham 1d 1996
Kadrewell Sybil M Hayes Lewisham 1d 1996

Blackheath is in Greenwich and Lewisham


http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/Libraries/OurServices/WhoWeAre/LewishamLocalHistoryAndArchivesCentre.htm


http://www.greenwich.gov.uk/Greenwich/LeisureCulture/HistoryAndHeritage/HeritageCentre/HCContactDetails.htm