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Any news of Robert, father of Sarah, witness to her marriage to William L Hatfield, 1 March 1852, Shoreditch. Robert not found in 1861 census. Did Sarah have siblings? Who was her mother? Help please.

An area would help!

So for reference.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)
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Bloice Sarah Ann Shoreditch 1c 319
Hatfield William Longden Shoreditch 1c 319



Several possibilities on the census records. Do you have any information on William and Sarah's children please?

Have you found her in 1851 and 1841?
And what was Robert's profession?
Thank-you

SARAH ANN BLOICE Pedigree
Female Family

Marriages:
Spouse: WILLIAM LONGDEN HATFIELD Family
Marriage: 01 MAR 1852 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Sarah Ann Bloice
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Spouse Name: William Longden Hatfield
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1852
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Robert Bloice - occupation - Carpenter
Spouse Father Name: William Longden Hatfield

one of witnesses was Samuel Dobree Bloice -

here's his marriage -


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Samuel Dobree Bloice
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Spouse Name: Mary Smith
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Jan 1851
Parish: St Philip, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Robert Bloice - occupation - Undertaker
Spouse Father Name: William Smith



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Philip, Bethnal Green, Register of marriages, P72/PHI, Item 013

1871 England Census
Name: Saml Bloise
[Samuel Dobree Bloice]
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Bentley, Essex, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 148
Household Members: Name Age
Saml Bloise 51
Maria Bloise 18
Jas W Slater 23




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 485; Folio: 57; Page: 29; GSU roll: 823372.

I can't look it up, can one of you please?

London births and baps.

Name: William Longden Hatfield
Mother: Elizabeth Hatfield
Father: William Longden Hatfield
Birth: date - city, Middlesex

Thanks, Choccy, Mel and Patricia. I had Sarah's marriage certificate but wanted to find Robert. Not in 1851 or 1861 as far as I can see. Plenty of other Bloice familied I think are related to R and Sarah, but I can't prove it. Sarah and William are my gggrandparents. Thanks choccy for Samuel's info That helps, too.

Are Choccy I was wondering about Essex!!

Samuel's second marriage -

Father is Robert Bloice, a Carpenter


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Samuel Dobree Bloice
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Spouse Name: Emma Doggett
Spouse Age: 41
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Jun 1872
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Robert Bloice
Spouse Father Name: Stephen Bloss



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Jude, Bethnal Green, Register of marriages, P72/JUD, Item 024

Does it state on any of the actual certificates if Robert were alive or dead?
Thanks

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Longden Hatfield
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Aug 1832
Father's Name: William Longden Hatfield
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hatfield
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
Borough: Lewisham
County: Middlesex



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Paul, Deptford, Register of baptisms, P75/PAU, Item 006

How old is Sarah on the marriage cert. please?

Could this be her at school? and Elizabeth born 1839 Middx?

1851 England Census
about Sarah Bloise
Name: Sarah Bloise
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Female
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Christopher Parker 63
Harriott Maynard Parker 53
Robert Parker 23
Harriott Parker 20
William Parker 18
Alfred Parker 17
Elizabeth Parker 15
Lewis Parker 13
Eleanor Parker 12
Mary Ann White 26
Matilda Mary White 20
Sarah Bloise 15
Elizabeth Bloise 12

here she is in 1851 with possibly her sister


Surname is Bloice on original -


1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Ann Blowe
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brantty, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
James Pollan 27
Mary Ann Pollan 25
James Pollan 1
Franklin Pollan 6 Mo
Sarah Ann Blowe 23 ******
Mary Elizth Blowe 17 - born Aldgate, London




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1492; Folio: 383; Page: 19; GSU roll: 87821.


Samuel Dobree Bloice was born in Bentley, Essex on one of the census returns. This could be the same place for Sarah Ann.

Possible Samuel in 1851, hard to read but looks like Bloice and another brother,:
1851 England Census
Samuel Stoice Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Household schedule number: 29
Samuel Stoice 32
Mary Stoice 34
Edwd Stoice 12
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1544; Folio: 418; Page: 6; GSU roll: 174774.

SAMUEL BLOYCE Pedigree
Male

Birth: 07 MAY 1833

Christening: 26 MAY 1833 Wesleyan, Manningtree, Essex, England
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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BLOYCE Family
Mother: MARY

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

SARAH BLOYCE Pedigree
Female


Birth: 17 AUG 1835

Christening: 27 SEP 1835 Wesleyan, Manningtree, Essex, England

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BLOYCE Family
Mother: MARY SHARPE

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

1851 England Census
Name: Edwd Stoice
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Stoice 32
Mary Stoice 34
Edwd Stoice 12




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1544; Folio: 418; Page: 6; GSU roll: 174774.

Thank you all, this has been helpful in confirming most of my info, except Sam Bloice's second marriage. That was a surprise. I have printed off all your contributions but have to sign off now. It's 7.45pm here. Thanks heaps, M

Sorry, I missed this query. I only have written transcript of the one marriage cert. and no ages, only 'bachelor' and 'spinster'. However, I know William L Hatfield ( his father also W L) was born in 1827, father c1800; Sarah c1828, Robert Bloice c1804. He was also listed as a coffin maker, I think 1841 census. There is no death date. Could he have come to Oz, or gone to the USA?