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Please can someone look up the 1891 census

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Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2010 15:14

Please can someone look up the 1891 census for Leonard Cooper Born 1875 Forest Hill, Kent? & his siblings Frederick born c1881 Rotherhithe, Surrey, & Susan born c1866 Rotherhithe, Surrey, their father died in 1889 & their mother was Susan born c1852 Rotherhithe, Surrey she may have remarried, any help much appreciated.
Ann E

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 16 May 2010 15:18

1891 England Census about Ldonard Cooper
Name: Ldonard Cooper
[Leonard Cooper]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest Hill; Sydenham
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Crispin
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Reader 56
Elizabeth Reader 52
Henry J Reader 26
Alice S J Reader 16
Alfred E Reader 13
William D Reader 8
Elizabeth Finch 55
Alfred F Finch 16
Ellen Highwood 47
Ellen M Highwood 20
Ernest L Highwood 18
Albert T Highwood 16
Ldonard Cooper 16
Eliza Pike 75
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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 15:20

On the 1891 census Leonard age 16 born Forest Hill, Sydenham is a boarder in the Highwood household in Bermondsey, London.

Thelma

Thelma Report 16 May 2010 15:21

Can you check the dates?
1881
Susan Cooper Leonard,
Susan abt 1877 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Daughter Rotherhithe, London

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 15:27

1891 census
184 Weedington Rd., St. Pancras, London
Charles Flowers, head, 42, painter, born Camden Town
Susan, wife, 36, born Woolwich
Frances Cooper, stepdaughter, 13, housework, born Kentish Town
Frederick Cooper, stepson, 10. born "
John Flowers, son, 6, born "
Alfred Flowers, son, 3, born "

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 16 May 2010 15:30

a note attached to t he correction of his name reads thus

Leonard rather than Ldonard
Very clear on original - believe this to be our Gt Grandfather.
Submitted by caroleneedham on 01/05/2008

profile updated yesterday

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 15:31

Hope first husband didn't die in 1889:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Cooper Susan Pancras 1b 76
Flowers Charles Pancras 1b 76



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 15:34

Looks like she wasn't married before:
Name: Susan Cooper
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Spouse Name: Charles Flower
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Mar 1884
Parish: St Martin, Kentish Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Musgrove Cooper
Spouse Father Name: Francis Flower

Sorry, Susan! Original says she was a widow and father's name is Musgrove Wilkins.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 15:38

Her first marriage:
Name: Susann Wilkins
Spouse Name: Charles Cooper
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Feb 1875
Parish: St John the Baptist, Kentish Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Musgrove Wilkins
Spouse Father Name: James Cooper

Original says Charles address 119 Highgate Rd., Susan's 120 Highgate Rd., Charles is a gas fitter, his father a publican, hers a gardener.

Edit: Doubt that they had a daughter Susan born 1866.

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2010 15:49

Thank you all for your replies, what was “Highwood household in Bermondsey” where Leonard was a boarder, was it a school or just a boarding house
yes that look like Susan in the 1881 census, I don’t know about Charles Flowers, I haven’t found a daughter Frances Cooper? She wasn’t on the 1881 census.
Thank you .
Ann E

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 16 May 2010 15:53

this might be the death ?


Name: Leonard Cooper
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 34
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 149 (click to see oth

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2010 16:03

I wonder what happened to Susan born 1866/7 & Frederick born 1881 age 2 months in the census. Their mother Susannah/Susan father was Geoege Stephens who was deceased at the time of her marriage on the 22 November 1874 to Leonard Cooper [sen].
Ann E

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2010 16:10

Thank you for the death Lindsey, my Leonard Cooper born 18 February 1854 Ryde IOW, think he died in 1889 Southwark.
Ann E

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 18:00

Sorry, Ann, when I said Highwood household I just meant that he was boarding with a family named Highwood in Bermondsey.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 18:45

I'm confused now, Ann! You say that Susan's father was George Stephens? So she's not the Susan Wilkins who married Charles Cooper in 1875 and then Charles Flower in 1884? She had children Frances Cooper born 1878 and Frederick born 1881.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 18:51

OK. So this is your family:
1881 census
45 Aspenden Rd., Rotherhithe
Leonard Cooper, head, 21, railway signalman, born Isle of Wight
Susan, wife, 29, born Rotherhithe
Leonard, son, 5, born "
Susan, dau, 4, born "
Frederick, son, 2 months, born "

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 19:04

The marriage:

Name: Leonard Cooper
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Susannah Stephens
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Nov 1874
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Leonard Cooper
Spouse Father Name: George Stephens

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 19:14

Children of Leonard & Susannah/Susan:

Name: Leonard Cooper
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 29 Oct 1876
Father's Name: Leonard Cooper
Mother's Name: Susannah Cooper
Parish: St James, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
74 Pedworth Rd. Father a porter.

Name: Susannah Cooper
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 29 Oct 1876
Father's Name: Leonard Cooper
Mother's Name: Susannah Cooper
Parish: St James, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
74 Pedworth Rd. Father a porter

Name: Frederick Cooper
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 28 Jan 1885
Father's Name: Leonard Cooper
Mother's Name: Susanna Cooper
Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
Born 7 Jan 1881
123 Abbeyfield Rd. father a signalman.

Name: William Cooper
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 28 Jan 1885
Father's Name: Leonard Cooper
Mother's Name: Susanna Cooper
Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
Born 2 jan 1885.
123 Abbeyfield Rd. father a signalman.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2010 19:37

I just can't find any of them in 1891.

Ann

Ann Report 16 May 2010 23:02

Hi Margaret,
Yes Susan's Stephens married Leonard Cooper sen, her father was George Stephens, So she's not the Susan Wilkins who married Charles Cooper in 1875, that was another Susan.
Now I am wondering if my Susan died & the children went to a relation?
thank you .
Ann