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could someone check the 1911 census for a john dobbie in west derby, liverpool area thank you

There are several - including two in one family


1911 census - household transcription
Person: DOBBIE, John
Address: 32 Breckfield Road North Everton Liverpool


DOBBIE, John Head Married M 63 1848 Cooper And Chemical Man Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, Annie Tait Wife Married
37 years F 56 1855 Scotland Greenock Resident VIEW
DOBBIE, Agnes Daughter Single F 14 1897 Servant Domestic Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, Elizabeth Daughter Widow F 34 1877 Wall House Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, Margret Granddaughter F 14 1897 Envelop Apprentice Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, Ethel May Granddaughter F 11 1900 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, John Robert Grandson M 9 1902 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, Richard Harris Grandson M 7 1904 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, William Granvill Grandson M 5 1906 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BOOTH, Annie Granddaughter F 2 1909 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22518 Reference:
RG14PN22518 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED5 SN10

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Everton

Address:
32 Breckfield Road North Everton Liverpool County:
Lancashire

1911 census - household transcription
Person: DOBBIE, John
Address: 11 Kilshaw Street Everton Liverpool


DOBBIE, John Head Married M 36 1875 Palm Oil Cooper Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, Eliza Allen Wife Married F 36 1875 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, Margaret May Daughter F 10 1901 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, Sarah Harriet Daughter F 9 1902 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, Eliza Allen Daughter F 6 1905 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
DOBBIE, John Son M 4 1907 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22550 Reference:
RG14PN22550 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED37 SN174

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
Everton

Address:
11 Kilshaw Street Everton Liverpool County:
Lancashire

born when?

these are the ones that show up

Household DOBBIE, John 1848 63 M West Derby Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household DOBBIE, John 1875 36 M West Derby Lancashire VIEW VIEW
Household DOBBIE, John 1907 4 M West Derby Lancashire VIEW
George

im not definite of the date around 1878, he had children jack, lilly, maggie, dont know his wifes name as this was his first marriage

born in liverpool around 1878

could this be him,on the original image they had 6 children 3 of whom had died so two of the three you mentioned might be those that died


DOBBIE, John Head Married M 33 1878 Boilermaker England Lpool Lancs Lpool VIEW
DOBBIE, Susan Wife Married F 32 1879 Charwoman England Lancs Lpool VIEW
DOBBIE, Annie Daughter F 12 1899 England Lancs Lpool VIEW
DOBBIE, John Son M 10 1901 England Lancs Lpool VIEW
DOBBIE, Maggie Daughter F 4 1907 England Lancs Lpool VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22248 Reference:
RG14PN22248 RG78PN1315 RD454 SD2 ED21 SN226

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park South West Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
1 C 1 H Goring St Liverpool S County:
Lancashire

George

i know for definite that john his son was on the first ship that went down in ww2. thanks for helpin me george

Is this the son?

Name: DOBBIE, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 2 Survey Regt.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 29/05/1940
Service No: 863671
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 11.
Memorial: DUNKIRK MEMORIAL

this is my nans dad john dobbie as i said before he was married before he was with my nans mum, i only knew of son john from my nan but i was told the recently about another 2 lilly and maggie. i dont know what happened if his first wife died or divorced but he had my nan to a norah baker in nov 1928 they had three children together he died around 1939 1940 sorry if im confusing you!

No births for Dobbie/Baker - so, unless Baker was not her maiden name, they didn't marry

EDIT - No marriage for Dobbie/Baker - the first wife was probably abandoned, as if she'd died there would have been no obstacle to a marriage

i have been told that he is on a memorial wall in london

The one I posted is the ONLY John Dobbie on the CWGC site for WW2

no mctigue was her maiden name baker was her married name, she was abandoned by her husband

IF this is his death - what does the 'S' stand for?

Name: John S Dobbie
Death Registration Month/Year: 1940
Age at death (estimated): 61
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 516

ok thank you flick for you help

i think it is stuart

Right - but there's still no marriage that I can see - which would fit with them not being free to do so

Are these the children?

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Dobbie William S McTigue Liverpool 8b 164

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Births Dec 1928 (>99%)
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Dobbie Dorothy McTigue W.Derby 8b 610

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Births Sep 1935 (>99%)
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Dobbie Eileen A McTigue Liverpool S. 8b 124

This one?

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
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Dobbie John Stewart W. Derby 8b 274

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Marriage

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Bennett George Alexander Liverpool 8b 58
Cannon Henrietta Liverpool 8b 58
Dobbie John Stewart Liverpool 8b 58
Newell Susan Liverpool 8b 58


This would fit the 1911 census which George posted

Other than the WW2 death that Flick found there are no other deaths in WW2 for a John Dobbie, and that includes civilians, listed on the CWGC site
So not sure if he would be named on a memorial in London, unlikeley i would have thought.

George