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Looking for decendants of Spencer/Cook family that came from Hathersage, Derby around 1840-60.

Any leads would be grately appreciated! Thank you!

Would this be someone from your family?

Name: John Robert Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Nov 1855
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
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Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Holme Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
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Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Gael

This is definitely the right family - can be found in the 1861 census. Some of the family have Cook in their name.

Name: Richard Cook Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Mar 1857
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
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Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Holme Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: George Cook Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Sep 1852
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
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Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Hulme Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Esther Maria Spencer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Jan 1854
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
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Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Hume Spencer
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Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Emily Jane Spencer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Sep 1852
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Hulme Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: John Robert Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Nov 1855
Baptism/Christening Place: HATHERSAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Holme Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01313-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 498087
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

From IGI:
GEORGE COOK SPENCER
Christening: 23 SEP 1852 Hathersage, Derby, England
Father: GEORGE HULME SPENCER Mother: ELIZABETH C013133

Groom's Name: John Spencer
Groom's Birth Date: 1856
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Cook
Bride's Birth Date: 1858
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1877
Marriage Place: Alfreton,Derby,England
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Spencer
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Solomon Cook
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04627-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041621
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Hi Heidi,

We have already communicated today re the Hulmes & it would certainly appear from Gael's posts that her Spencers are the ones that you are looking for. You already have access to my tree & you should find extra information there re the Spencers & the Standrins.

Gary (also from downunder!)

Hello Julcoe,

My great grandmother Emily Jane Spencer's parents are George Hulme Spencer and Elizabeth Cook. I know who Emily Jane's sibblings are and where they were born and of course Emily Jane's decendants but I only know about one of her aunts Eunice Spencer Standrin George's sister. But I can't find any info about any of George's other sibblings and decedants or Emily's sibblings and their decedants.

I have tried to find info on Elizabeth Cook - think her father maybe was Richard Cook. George was in the needle manufacturing business in Hathersage and so was Elizabeth's uncle Robert Cook. I can't find any info about her mother, sibblings, etc.

Thanks for any info you might have!

Hi Gary!

Yes, I got your email - I will try to track down David Hilton. Your branch of the Spencers is the only one that I have info on. Can't seem to find anyone else thus far! Glad for your info all all the great- grandparents. Info I had no access to prior! Thanks for sharing!

Heidi
Emily Jane's great granddaughter

Was Eunice Spencer Standrin born 1863 parents George 1837 lancs and Elizabeth 1837 yorkshire?
When was George Hulme Spencer born?

Maryb

John Hulme 1759 born Ashton lancs married Grace Barron 13/7/1783 had Esther hulme 1784 married John Spencer 15/8/1814 and had George Hulme Spencer 8/3/182
Thomas 1814
Eunice 1816
Grace 1818
Elizabeth 1825.
Info off tree on Ancestry.co.uk

Maryb
EDIT sorry Heidi you already now this,as it is on your tree on Ancestry.
So what exactly are you looking for????????

Hi Mary,

I am looking for their decedants - on my tree I have the info for my great-grandmother Emily's decedants and from others on Genes Reunited I know of Eunice's decedants but that is where every thing seems to stop. I am also looking for info on the Cooks - Emily's mothers family.

Did Eunice marry William Standring? Did she live in Cheshire?

Name: William Standring
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date:
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Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1834
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Event Date:
Birthplace:
Christening Place:
Marriage Place: Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England
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Death Place:
Burial Place:
Event Place:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Principal's Marital Status:
Principal's Residence: , , Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name: Eunice Spencer
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Residence: , , Cheshire, England
Spouse's Father:
Spouse's Mother:
Age:
Image Number: 34
Digital Folder Number: 4011876
Film Number: 1737059
Collection: England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900

Groom's Name: John Spencer
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Esther Hulme
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 15 Aug 1814
Marriage Place: Saint Michael,Ashton Under Lyne,Lancashire,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00558-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 547826
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: George Holme Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Dec 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,ASHTON UNDER LYNE,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 08 Mar 1822
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Esther
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00558-7
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 547824
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Eunice Spencer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Mar 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Michael, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Esther
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04818-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545441
Reference Number: item 1 v 1816 p 24
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Thomas Spencer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Sep 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Michael, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Esther
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04818-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545441
Reference Number: item 1 v DRM 2/8a/5
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Elizabeth Spencer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Mar 1825
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Michael, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Esther
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04818-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545441
Reference Number: item 2 v DRM 2/9/4 p 178
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Could Grace have married a Stranding too???

Groom's Name: Squire Standring
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Grace Spencer
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Jun 1833
Marriage Place: St. Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00829-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1545467
Reference Number: Item 2 P121 #361
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Who did Emily Jane marry? What was the surname of her children so I can look further for you?

Gael

Hi Gael,

Yes, Eunice married William. This is the branch of the Spencer family that has had a lot of research done on. The only other one is her brother George - which is my research.

Heid

Hi Gael,

Emily Jane married Thomas Young from Manchester. His father is Thomas Young and his mother Henrietta Burton Lyon. Thomas and Henrietta may have had 3 kids together a John, Henrietta and Thomas. But I believe they separated - not sure when or even if Thomas died as Henrietta later married someone by the name of Watson and they had 3 or 4 kids. I have even wondered if he went to prison? I would be interested in getting info on the Watsons as they are half blood to us too.

Emily Jane and Thomas Young jr had 4 kids: Thomas Spencer (died age 1), Conrad Hurbert, Charles Walter (my grandfather) and Beatrice Emily. They lived in the Birmingham area. All of her decendants are here in Canada. Thomas remarried a woman named Alice and had two more children. Thomas passed away suddenly after a couple of years and the three older children were sent to Canada as orphans. I have found a great-grandson of Thomas and Alice's daughter Elsie through this website. Which was a thrill but he doesn't have any on Elsie's younger brother Harold. As Elsie and Harold were not raised together.

I am interested in finding Thomas and Alice's youngest child Harold Thomas Young - doesn't seem to have a birth certificate - Thomas died only a few weeks before Harold was born so it must have been a chaotic time for the family etc and he just was never registered. He left home for the Canada/US by boat when he was 14-17 years of age. But that is were we loose him. Rumour has it he is buried in Seattle, Washington sometime in the '60's but I don't have any concrete info on that. I would love to be able to find who he married and his children etc. Would you be able to help with that? I live in Vancouver, BC so it would be easy enough for me to make a trip to Seattle (3 hour car ride) if we were able to find proof that he is buried there.

Thanks for any help!

I have no idea - That is quit possible of course. My Grace would have been born "probably" in Ashton under Lyn as her sibblings all were. The birth date seems possible. What drives me nuts about them all is that they are named after each other!!! Each generation is named after an aunt or uncle! I am so glad that my great-grandmother Emily at least had a middle name! But alas, neither is she named after anyone or anyone her! :-) But her brothers all have Cook as their middle names. - her mother's maiden name.