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Have you looked to see if they are on Ancestry Rob?

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Dea I think someone here did a few month's ago and could only come up with same info I have from CWGC. His name is Alexander Hill d Aug 16 1917 is listed on Tyne Cot Memorial.

R

Rob,

As I am sure that you are aware about 70% of WW1 service records were destroyed by fire during WW2. Ancestry however has transcribed what remains and have these on their site. They also have WW1 pension records and occasionally in the past I have found a soldiers service records there when they did not show up in the Service records database.

There are some records for an Alexander Hill born in Ballymena. Is that your relation? If so I have access to them.

Having looked at those records on Ancestry I don't think that they are ones relating to your Alexander. I note that the one commemorated at Tyne Cot was 23 when he died in 1917. The records seem to relate to someone who signed on in April 1911 so unless your man joined as a boy soldier I doubt that it is him.

I believe the one on Ancestry is a different one Jonesey (IF you were looking at the same one as me?) - he appears to be this one?

HILL, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: H.Q., Staff, 93rd Bde.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 16/03/1916
Service No: 65453
Additional information: Son of William and Sarah Jane Hill, of Kilbride Road, Doagh, Co. Antrim, Ireland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot 2. Row G. Grave 8.
Cemetery: FERME-OLIVIER CEMETERY
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British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Alexander Hill
Name: Alexander Hill
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Ballymena
Birth County: Antrim
Regimental Number: 65453
Regiment Name: Royal Regiment of Artillery (RH ??
Number of images: 22

Dea x

This is him here on CWGC

Casualty Details
Name: HILL, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 16/08/1917
Service No: 16448
Additional information: Son of Samuel and Cathrine Hill, of Dunaverny, Ballymoney, Co. Antrim.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 70 to 72.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

I thought for one minute I was on a look up thread

OK so where is everyone hiding?

Hi all
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cloudy with sunny periods today


I fear the Indian Summer is over :-(



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Ancestry carries transcriptions of all the surviving WW1 records .................. so, unfortunately, if your Alexander's records are not on there, then I'm afraid they have not survived the bombing and fires that happened in WW2.


It will make no difference applying to the War Office, or wherever it is that the records are held.




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I'm here Gins!

R

the following is on ancestry ...... which isn't much more than you know

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Alexander Hill

Name: Alexander Hill
Birth Place: Ballymoney, Co. Antrim
Death Date: 16 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Ballymoney
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Battalion: 8th Battalion
Number: 16448
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre



and


Ireland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 about Alexander Hill

Name: Alexander Hill
Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, 8th Batt
Regiment Number: See Image
Rank: See Image
Death Date: 16 Aug 1917
Death Place: France
Birth Place: Ballymoney, Northern Ireland

image shows same information as above



Plus this


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Alex Hill

Name: Alex Hill
Regiment or Corps: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Regimental Number: 16448


from image:-

He was awarded the Victory Medal and the British Medal, no date(s) of awarding.

This is the information on the medals:-

Allied Victory Medal (Victory Medal) was awarded for service in any operational theater between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was issued to individuals who received the 1914 and 1914-15 Stars and to most individuals who were issued the British War Medal. The medal was also awarded for service in Russia (1919-1920) and post-war mine clearance in the North Sea (1918-1919).


British War Medal was awarded to both servicemen and civilians that either served in a theater of war, or rendered service overseas between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was also awarded for service in Russia, and post-war mine clearance in the Baltic, the Black Sea, and the Caspian Sea between 1919 and 1920.





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My thanks to all ... it was as I had anticipated not much more to unearth

R

As an afterthought, as he died in action, I assume medals were awarded posthumously, if so would there be a record of the recipient.

R

In most WW1 service records that I have seen any medals awarded to a deceased soldier were normally sent to their next of kin I.E. his parents or wife. In the case of the Alexander Hill who died in 1916 his medals were forwarded to an S.J.Hill.

I find service records make interesting reading. I came across one recently where the soldiers wife had run of and left him before he signed on. When he signed on he declared himself as a single man but when his wife found out she had written to the army asking for part of his army pay to be sent to her. She did not mention the fact that she and the man she had run off with were living together as man and wife along with their child. Not unnaturally the soldier contested her claim and to resolve the matter the army asked the police to give their view of her. The police report described her as, "A woman of loose morals often to be found in drink".

R


the medal card does not say


But equally, it does not say that the medals were awarded posthumously.


I do have to say however, that most cards that I have seen do have some sort of date on them.


Those medals were awarded to every serviceman who served "overseas" during the war ................. almost "service" medals, rather than distinguished conduct, or for actions "above and beyond"


My own grandfather got them .......... and I have no idea where they went.

I fear my aunt-by-marriage burnt them, as she told me back in 1991 that she had burnt everything to do with "that" family after her husband died "because no-one would be interested. She never asked ME!



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Sylvs~~~~~

Just watching ten years younger and the women on there is 34 but her face looks about 50

Bless her, she has a fab figure and is very attractive its just the look of her skin

a sun worshipper?

Reporting in but have been busy with Evelyn's thread etc. ..........and grandchildren and tea and, and, and........so it goes on.


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... for thinking I'm 46. My FB photo is about 2 years old.

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