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Barbara
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20 Aug 2010 08:09 |
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Please could someone give me a helping hand. I am having a
problem finding this family on census records.
William Henry King b1855-1926 married Frances Mira Hind
1851-1934 on 25-01-1875 in Nottinghamshire.
i am unable to find a birth for him on free BMD but believe I have
found him on the 1861 census b Ingold Lincs.
His father Francis King b 24-01 1830 in Ingold Lincs is on the 1841 but not the1861 census. Is this usual not to find a birth record. I have had problems with missing marriage records then found out they weren't actually married. I would appreciate any help with this Barbara
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:19 |
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It was'nt until 1875 that they imposed a law to fine you if you did not register a birth so maybe he was'nt registered.
But he was Christened.
WILLIAM KING Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 FEB 1855 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England
Parents: Father: FRANCIS KING Family Mother: SARAH
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:25 |
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This is William and his siblings Christenings.
1. FRANCIS KING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 JUN 1853 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England 2. WILLIAM KING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 25 FEB 1855 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England 3. JOSEPH KING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUN 1864 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England 4. THOMAS KING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 JAN 1870 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England
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ChristineinPortugal
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20 Aug 2010 08:30 |
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This looks like the family in 1861.
1861 England Census about William King Name: William King Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Francis Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Aslackby County/Island: Lincolnshire Registration district: Bourn Sub-registration district: Aslackby ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 101 Household Members: Name Age Francis King 30 Sarah King 29 Francis C King 8 William King 6 John King 3 Stephen King 1
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:33 |
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Marriage but which Sarah?????????
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Francis King Name: Francis King Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Grantham (1837-1933) County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 811
Sarah Eleanor Balm 1853 Grantham (1837-1933) Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Sarah Cooling 1853 Grantham (1837-1933) Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Francis King 1853 Grantham (1837-1933) Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
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ChristineinPortugal
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20 Aug 2010 08:34 |
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The parents marriage appears to have been in Grantham and there are these births.
Births Mar 1855 (>99%) King William Grantham 7a 388 King William Grantham 7a 398
There's probably just the one registration but the page no is difficult to read.
Christine
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:35 |
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STEPHEN KING Pedigree Male Birth: Christening: 26 FEB 1860 Aslackby, Lincoln, England Parents: Father: FRANCIS KING Family Mother: SARAH
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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ChristineinPortugal
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20 Aug 2010 08:44 |
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Just for ref the 1901 census for birthplace.
1901 England Census about William King Name: William King Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Francis M Gender: Male Where born: Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: South Kirkby Ecclesiastical parish: South Kirkby All Saints Town: South Kirkby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hemsworth Sub-registration district: Hemsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age William King 46 Francis M King 49 John H King 23 Mary A King 18 William E King 16 Alice King 11 Adolphus C King 7
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:47 |
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William King Pedigree Male Family Marriages: Spouse: Frances Mira HIND Family Marriage: 25 JAN 1875
Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 08:53 |
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Francis King birth.
24 Jan 1830 Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire
Death
18 Jan 1900 in Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire
Married Sarah Cooling.
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GlitterBaby
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20 Aug 2010 08:54 |
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1891 I reckon this is the family
Name: William King Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Frances M Gender: Male Where born: Grantham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: South Kirkby Ecclesiastical parish: South Kirkby Town: Moorthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Hemsworth Sub-registration district: Hemsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William King 36 Frances M King 39 John H King 13 - Nottingham Myra E King 11 - Sheffield Mary A King 9 - Bulwell William E King 6 - Bullwell Maria E King 4 - Bulwell Alice King 1 - Bulwell Alice Robinson 30 - visitor Annie Robinson 3/12
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Barbara
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20 Aug 2010 08:55 |
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Thank you so much for all that information Mel and Christine. I really appreciate your help. Barbara xxx
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GlitterBaby
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20 Aug 2010 09:01 |
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1881 possible
Name: Fanny King Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Chesterfield Civil parish: Nottingham St Mary County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 71 Waterway St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Exchange ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Isam 29 Fanny King 29 John H. King 3 Myra E. King Class: RG11; Piece: 3362; Folio: 48; Page: 12; GSU roll: 1341803.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 09:02 |
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1841 England Census about Francis King Name: Francis King Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Ingoldsby Hundred: Aswardhurn County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Colsterworth Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John King 35 Elizth King 35 Francis King 11 Ann King 7 Elizth King 5 Sarah King 3 John King 1 Ann Ireland 70 HO107; Piece 620; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Ingoldsby; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 13; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 22;
1851 England Census about Francis King Name: Francis King Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Leasingham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Billinghay ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Charles Sands 41 Rebecca Sands 35 Charles Sands 9 Eliza Paulger 19 Francis King 21 Servant unmarried <<<<<<< Smith Porter 21 James Porter 18 You have the 1861.
1871 England Census about Francis King Name: Francis King Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Ingoldsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Colsterworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Francis King 41 Sarah King 39 John King 13 Stephen King 11 Joseph King 8 Reuben King 6 Mary King 3 Thomas King 1 RG10; Piece: 3355; Folio: 11; Page: 15; GSU roll: 839359.
Can't find the 1881 at the moment.
1891 England Census about Francis King Name: Francis King Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Ingoldsby, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Ingoldsby Ecclesiastical parish: Ingoldsby Town: Ingoldsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Grantham South ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Francis King 61 Widower Mary King 23 Isabella King 20 1871 Daughter-in-law RG12; Piece: 2582; Folio 65; Page 13
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 09:06 |
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Francis King parents marriage.
JOHN KING Pedigree Male Family
Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH PEPPER Family Marriage: 28 NOV 1825 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England
Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
ELIZABETH PEPPER Pedigree Female Christening: 21 APR 1805 Ingoldsby, Lincoln, England Parents: Father: ROBT PEPPER Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. --------------------------------------
ROBERT PEPPER Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 30 OCT 1781 North Witham, Lincoln, England
Parents: Father: THOMAS PEPPER Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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Barbara
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20 Aug 2010 09:19 |
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Glitter Baby thank you, why would Williams birth place change from Lincolnshire to Nottingham shire is this normal for census records Barbara
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 09:20 |
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Marriage of Thomas and Ann.
Thomas Pepper Pedigree Male Family Marriages: Spouse: Anne Wilbourn Family Marriage: 23 MAY 1763 North Witham, Lincoln, England
Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Children of Thomas Pepper and Ann.
1. JOHN PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 FEB 1770 North Witham, Lincoln, England 2. WILLIAM PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 31 MAY 1778 North Witham, Lincoln, England 3. THOMAS PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1769 North Witham, Lincoln, England
Death: 13 JAN 1769 4. THOMAS PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 09 APR 1775 North Witham, Lincoln, England 5. ROBERT PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 OCT 1781 North Witham, Lincoln, England 6. MARY PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUN 1772 North Witham, Lincoln, England 7. GEORGE PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1764 North Witham, Lincoln, England 8. ELIZABETH PEPPER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 15 MAY 1766 North Witham, Lincoln, England
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 09:26 |
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Barbara If they said they were not born in the parish in which they lived they could not claim parish releif if on hard times. They were sent back to where they came from if they needed releif. Old question too "Where are you from?"
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Barbara
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20 Aug 2010 09:29 |
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Mel , all that extra information is wonderful. It would have taken me a month of Sundays to find all that. Barbara xxx
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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20 Aug 2010 09:32 |
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So glad you are pleased.
It has been a pleasure looking this family up. Most info from IGI which is free to search.
Must do some work now!!
Melanie x
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