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Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Nov 2010 18:43

Thanks to all who tried to help but my tree seems to have some broken branches along the way
ANDY

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2010 06:30

Same here Sylvia. No luck at all.


Ozi

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Nov 2010 01:39

we should be able to find Clara, Thomas and Robert b. 1890 on the 1891 Census


but they are not there.


One possible answer is that the transcriber has put them under the wrong surname ...... although I have tried searching under christian name only, without success!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Nov 2010 01:17

???? Clara's mother in 1871??


1871 Census

Name: Anne Buckchrope
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: Old Parish Church
Town: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley

George Houghton 62
Hannah Houghton 56
Mary Houghton 33
Thomas H Houghton 19
Anne Buckchrope 23 General Servant
Sarah Jane Markland 15



It is Buckthorpe on the image ..... I have sent in an alternative name





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Nov 2010 00:56

That Charles Ann Buckthorpe could be a mis-transcription


This coudld be the connection between Frederick and an Ann Buckthorpe

1851 Census

Name: Frederick Buckthorp
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Buckthorp
Mother's name: Ann Buckthorp
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Lincoln St Nicholas
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home

Henry Buckthorp 40
Ann Buckthorp 38
William Buckthorp 18
Charles Buckthorp 14
Thomas Buckthorp 12
Frederick Buckthorp 9 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Henry Buckthorp 7
Ann Buckthorp 5 b.ca 1846, Lincoln <<<<<<<<<
Samuel Buckthorp 4
Agnes Buckthorp 1



sylvia

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Nov 2010 00:35

Bear with me, I'm trying to find Clara in 1891.
Deaths Mar 1898
COOK Clara 31 Bolton 8c 210

I notice above that 'Daughter of Charles Ann Buckthorpe, Singlewoman'. So there's a mistake there somewhere.

1871 England Census
Name: Clara Buckthorpe
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Bolton Eastern
Household Members: Name Age
Fredk Buckthorpe 29
Ann Buckthorpe 33
Clara Buckthorpe 4



and 1881:
1881 England Census
Name: Clara Buckthorpe
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Fred Buckthorpe
Mother's name: Hannah Maria Buckthorpe
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 55 Nile St

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Bolton Eastern
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Buckthorpe 39 - Brick Layer; Lincoln
Hannah Maria Buckthorpe 41
Clara Buckthorpe 14

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 13 Nov 2010 23:30

Clara's baptism in Bolton?

Baptisms: 30 Jan 1867 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Clara Buckthorpe - Daughter of Charles Ann Buckthorpe, Singlewoman
Abode: Venture St.
Baptised by: C Cargill
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1868, Page 47, Entry 371
Source: LDS Film 1966122

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 22:55

yes Sorry in 1st post I did put him as grandfather.

yes Brother George Both in Edens Orphanage in1901 Census

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 22:47

Your grandfather in 1901

Name: Robert Cooke
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Sharples
ED, institution, or vessel: Edens Orphanage
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

Do you have his birth cert?

Is this your grandfather's brother - also in the orphanage in 1901

George Cooke 9

Katie

Katie Report 13 Nov 2010 22:46

Have you tried looking on this free site?

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Baptisms: 9 Apr 1890 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Robert Cooke - Son of Thomas Cooke & Clara
Abode: 2 Back Dawson Lane
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: Wm.Pearson
Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1894, Page 87, Entry 690
Source: LDS Film 2113024



Katie

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 22:43

So Thomas was your GREAT grandfather...............

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 22:38

Sorry Very frustrating this one. I cant find them on any census records, My father is Wilfred Cooke Bolton 1930 Dec 1/4 8c 523
His father Was Robert Cooke Bolton 1890 Mar 1/4 8c 472
His father was Thomas Cooke ??? occ was Gardener
His father James Cooke??? from Marriage Cert Occ Farm labourer

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 22:32

What was Thomas's occupation? (From the marriage cert)

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 22:16

I'm aware of that, as I read your posting..

I'm trying.......without success so far........... to find them in 1891.

You haven't answered my question about your father...........

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 22:13

Clara Buckthorp Birth Lincoln 1864 Sep 1/4 7a 450
Thomas Cooke to Clara Marriage Bolton 1889 Sep 1/4 8c 556
Thomas Cooke Death Bolton 1897 Dec 1/4 8c 239

I am mainly trying to find where Thomas was Born. Thanks

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 22:08

Perhaps you aren't aware that until 1875, there were no penaties for not registering births.........so Thomas's birth may simply not have been registered

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 22:01

Corrected feed to marriage, Thomas Married Clara Buckthorp in 1889 & died in 1897 age 45

Flick

Flick Report 13 Nov 2010 21:58

Are you saying that your grandfather was born in 1852?

Who did he marry?

When and where was your father born?

What was his name?

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 21:56

Thomas married & died in Bolton

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Nov 2010 21:54

1852 thomas cooke , but no ideas on birth place, the only poss I have found is Norfolk Garboldisham as Father on Marriage Cert is James, Cant find any more. Thanks