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I don't know the dates of birth for my gt. grand parents Frederick Barlow and his wife Elsie May Griffiths. I just found their marriage details 25/12/1910. I will also need to find their children but they don't seam to be on any census. They could not write would that have an impact?

p.s they were from North Birmingham

Their children are on FreeBMD.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Put in Barlow and the mother's maiden name to find them. There are several Barlow/Griffiths births. You will need birth certs to figure out which children are theirs.

Rose

Looks like you will need to get the marriage cert. to get their ages and father's names.

Rose

Do you know when Elsie died?

Deaths Jun 1938
Barlow Elsie M 49 Birmingham 6d 287

Rose

thank you very much :)

THORNE, Jane Ann Head Widow F 53 1858 Bedstead Dipper Ireland
GRIFFITHS, George John Son Single M 19 1892 Capstan Hand Warwickshire Bham
GRIFFITHS, Robert Henry Son Single M 12 1899 School Boy Warwickshire Bham
BARLOW, Fred Son In Law Married under 1 year M 24 1887 Emery Grinder Warickshire Birmingham
BARLOW, Elsie Daughter Married F 21 1890 Warickshire Birmingham
RG number: RG14 Piece: 18168 Reference: RG14PN18168 RG78PN1099 RD385 SD1 ED21 SN154 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Deritend Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Aston Address: 18 Derby St Birmingham County: Warwickshire

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Births Jun 1889
Griffiths Elsie May Aston 6d 283

Added: Jane has had 13 children, 4 still living

1901 England Census
Jane Griffiths
Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Rimeick, Ireland Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Basil Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 33

Jane Griffiths 43 widow bedstead painter (Limerick?)
Frances Griffiths 14
Elsie Griffiths 12
George Griffiths 9
Robert Griffiths 4

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2855; Folio: 53; Page: 6.

I am having trouble finding Elizabeth Barlow.
Child Helen Livinia Barlow
Married ' Snowy ' Wright
Child Lily Wright
Married Fred Hill
Children Olive Emma Hill
Charlie Hill
Malcom Hill
(I have flashplayer problems)

I also can't seam to find Elizabeth's brother Harry Barlow DOD 20 jan 1924 wife's Name Jane Child's Name Elsie.

Their Parents Name's Were Thomas Barlow And Emma Binns

Who is Elizabeth? How is she related to Frederick from your original post.

We need dates and locations for names.

Rose

There's no death for a Harry Barlow on the date you mention.

Rose

Elizabeth Barlow marriage?
Elizabeth Barlow
Spouse Surname: Wright
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1935
Registration district: South Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 291

Added
Probably not if this is correct:
Olive M Hill
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wright
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 474

We need some dates as we are just working in the dark

OK
Marriages Mar 1882
BARLOW Thomas Aston 6d 288
BINNS Emma Aston 6d 288

Harry and Elizabeth with parents Thomas and Emma (except Thomas born before marriage)?
1891 England Census
Thomas Barlow
Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Barlow
Gender: Male Where born: Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Basil
Town: Bordesley County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 67 Piece: 2412 Folio: 108
Page Number: 26

Thomas Barlow 33
Emma Barlow 28
Thomas Barlow 11
William Barlow 9
Lizzie Barlow 7
Harry Barlow 5
Frederick Barlow 4
Emma Barlow 4/12
Frederick Barlow 24

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2412; Folio 108; Page 26; GSU roll: 6097522.

I have a picture of a grave stone that say's ' Emma Barlow (nee. Binns) DOD 15/11/1920 age 58 also Thomas her husband DOD 20/7/1935 age 76. Also their son Harry Husband of Jane DOD 20/1/1924 age 38' This is the only information I have, except that my Nan who has been right so far, does not think Harry had a different real name.
The only close match is John H Barlow DOD mar-june 1924 Aston 6d 643 but his wife's name Lillian May Holtom does not match with any family knowledge or his grave

Frederick was Harry And Elizabeth's Brother.

Elizabeth Barlow DOB C. 1878
unmarried had Helen Livinia Barlow DOB C. 1898
Married ' Snowy' Wright Died in ww1
Child Lily Wright DOB C. 1900
Married Fred Hill
Children
Olive Emma Hill DOB Dec 1921
Charlie Hill DOB sept 1924
Malcom Hill Sept 1932

Birmingham probably Aston

The information that you have given fits with the census I posted for 1891?

Possible?
Deaths Dec 1918
BARLOW Lilian [M_] 30 Aston 6d 800

Second marriage?
Marriages Mar 1921
Barlow John H Glithero Aston 6d 742
Glithero Jane Barlow Aston 6d 742

Births Jun 1921
Barlow Elsie Glithero Aston 6d 1098

(Deaths Mar 1924
Barlow John H 38 Aston 6d 643)

You said:

"Elizabeth Barlow DOB C. 1878 " but Lizzie in 1891 was born c1884.

Rose

Births Sep 1885
Barlow John Henry Aston 6d 224

Rose

There's no birth for a Helen Livinia Barlow but there is this:

Births Sep 1905
BARLOW Ellen Lavinia Birmingham 6d 189

She married Alfred Kindon and died in 1988. Does this sound correct?

Rose