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George Herring census difficulties

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Cippy

Cippy Report 11 Jul 2011 10:25

Hello,

I am having difficulties finding 1841 and 1851 census for:

George Herring b1829 Monkwearmouth, Durham
He married Isabella Readymartch (or Readymarcher) 1857

According to the marr. cert. he lived in Green Street, Sunderland, occ. Mariner
His father was William Herring, a Gentleman's servant.

Any ideas?

Regards,
Chris

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Jul 2011 10:29

is this a possibilty
1841
ORWIN, Dorothy F 80 1761 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Wm M 48 1793 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Jane F 45 1796 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Wm M 20 1821 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Jane F 18 1823 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Geo M 16 1825 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Mary F 14 1827 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Margt F 12 1829 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Emma F 10 1831 Durham VIEW
HERRING, James M 7 1834 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Ann F 5 1836 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Isabella F 3 1838 Durham VIEW
HENDERSON, Hudson M 17 1824 Ireland VIEW
COULTON, Margt F 30 1811 Durham VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
299 Book/Folio:
9/18 Page:
21

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
Monkwearmouth Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Monkwearmouth Municipal Borough:
Sunderland Address:
High Street, Monkwearmouth, Southwick, Sunderland County:
Durham

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:33

GEORGE HERRING Pedigree
Male
Birth: 30 DEC 1824 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England
Father: WILLIAM HERRING Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

Cippy

Cippy Report 11 Jul 2011 10:37

Thanks, yes I have looked into these, but I'm not convinced.
According to marr. cert. and the following cencuses he was born between Apr 1829 and Mar 1830.

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Jul 2011 10:38

if the above birth is right the 1841 can't be them
williams marraige to elizabeth
Parish Records Collection - marriage
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Day: 23
Month: Apr
Year: 1818
Groom forenames: William
Groom surname: Herring
Grooms parish:
Groom other:
Bride forenames: Elizabeth
Bride Surname: Hay
Brides parish:
Bride other:
Place: Monkwearmouth
Description: Monkwearmouth, St. Peter
County: Durham
Checked: N
Origin:

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:38

Have we been here before Cippy?

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:39

1841
Name: George Herring
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Hundred: Easington (North Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Wearmouth North
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 310
Book: 4
Folio: 5
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
George Herring 15


Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Jul 2011 10:42

there is this one
Parish Records Collection - baptism
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Day: 29
Month: Jan
Year: 1826
Forenames: George
Surname: Herring
Fathers Forenames: William
Occupation:
Mothers Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers Surname: Herring
Birth day:
Birth month:
Birth year:
Abode:
Place: Monkwearmouth
Dedication:
County: Durham
Country: England
Checked:
Other info:
Other Father:
Other Mother:


this oneParish Records Collection - baptism
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Day: 25
Month: Nov
Year: 1825
Forenames: George
Surname: Herring
Fathers Forenames: William
Occupation:
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Mothers Surname: Herring
Birth day:
Birth month:
Birth year:
Abode:
Place: Monkwearmouth
Dedication:
County: Durham
Country: England
Checked:
Other info:
Other Father:
Other Mother:

canit see one for 1829/30
sorry

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:44

Cippy ,ages are not right in most Census ,and it's not thtem writing them.They had no schooling ,most of them.People filling in the Census could add up to 5 years on an age given.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:46

Bapts in Monkwearmouth at that time .according to the IGI
1. MARY HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 SEP 1807 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

2. MARY HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 NOV 1826 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

3. MARY HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 19 MAR 1836 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

4. ELIZABETH HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 MAR 1819 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

5. ELIZABETH HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 FEB 1833 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

6. EMMA HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 MAR 1831 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

7. WILLIAM HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAY 1793 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

8. WILLIAM HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 NOV 1820 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

9. WILLIAM HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 MAR 1830 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

10. ANN HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 OCT 1826 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

11. ANN HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 AUG 1831 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

12. GEORGE HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 DEC 1824 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

13. MARGARET HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 FEB 1829 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

14. JAMES CRAGGS HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 MAR 1800 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

15. JAMES HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JUL 1833 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

16. JAMES HERRING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JUN 1834 Monkwearmouth, Durham, England


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Cippy

Cippy Report 11 Jul 2011 10:48

I have these 2 baptism records, but the age on the marr. cert (27, so born 1830) confuses me

Baptisms, Sunderland District - Record Number: 709324.0
Location: Monkwearmouth
Church: St. Peter's
Denomination: Anglican
25 Nov 1825 George Herring, of Monkwearmouth, born 28 Oct 1825, son of William (groom) & Mary Herring


Baptisms, Sunderland District - Record Number: 709382.0
Location: Monkwearmouth
Church: St. Peter's
Denomination: Anglican
29 Jan 1826 George Herring, of Monkwearmouth Shore, born 30 Dec 1824, son of William (blockmaker) & Elizabeth Herring

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jul 2011 10:50

Remember this -

Note:
In the 1841 Census a policy of rounding down ages was in place.

* As such people aged:
* 15-19 were recorded as 15;
* 20-24 were recorded as 20;
* 25-29 were recorded as 25;
* 30-34 were recorded as 30;
* 35-39 were recorded as 35;

Vera

Vera Report 11 Jul 2011 10:50

Just for reference....mistranscribed

1861

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HERRIG, George Head Married M 33 1828 Mariner
Monkwearmouth
Durham VIEW
HERRIG, Isabella Wife Married F 22 1839
Bishopwearmouth
Durham VIEW
HERRIG, George Son M 1 1860
Bishopwearmouth
Durham VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3765 Folio:
79 Page:
20

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
1 North Bishop-Wearmouth Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Bishopwearmouth

Civil Parish:
Bishopwearmouth Municipal Borough:
Sunderland Address:
7, Pann Lane, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland County:
Durham

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 11 Jul 2011 10:52

As George was a mariner, he could have been at sea in 1851.

Regards Vera

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 10:58

Single men sometimes missed Census .Out working or having a pint LOL

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 11:03

You need to go to your nearest Family History Center and order the Filch and find him that way .If it's your main line ,you want records anyway.

Cippy

Cippy Report 11 Jul 2011 11:13

Thanks for all the help, my nearest family history center is about 1200 miles away. I have these Herrings in my tree, but not as direct line. I am trying to see if there is a connection to my direct Herring line.

What does this 1841 census say?

Herring George 1831 Durham Stockton & Sedgefield, Sedgefield

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Jul 2011 11:14

1861
Name: George Herring
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Herring
Gender: Male
Where born: Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 3765
Folio: 79
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
George Herring 33
Isabella Herring 22
George Herring 1


States born 1828

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jul 2011 12:09

1841 census -

HERRING, Robert M 70 1771 Durham VIEW
HERRING, Mary F 70 1771 VIEW
HERRING, George M 10 1831 Durham VIEW

RG number: HO107 Piece: 317 Book/Folio: 1/5 Page: 14
Registration District: Stockton & Sedgefield Sub District: Sedgefield Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Bishopton Municipal Borough: Address: Bishopton, Bishopton County: Durham

Possibly, their grandson???

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 12 Jul 2011 10:18

AI_DUR_129 Monkwearmouth Baptisms, Marriages & Burials 1813-1839 Indexed by G. Bell & C. Yellowley. £24.00 Filch

http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/

Edit-Also Genuki have some good info on Monkwearmouth.