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Hi there, just wondering if anyone can help me? I received a marriage certificate today for a great, great great grandmother. I think i have managed to work out who her mother was and so on but now I'm really confused as the father is a Henry Bernard Chalon and apparently he was an artist but when i googled him it said he only had one child whereas on here he has loads. Can this be the same person? Any help would be fabulous if anyone can be bothered! My great, great great grandmother was Emily Caroline Watson born 1848 in london, chelsea and i then think her mother was Frederica Rebecca Chalon? If yes is the father Henry Bernard Chalon the artist? That's the bit I'm confused about?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Henry Bernard Chalon
Name: Henry Bernard Chalon
Spouse Name: Sarah Ward
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Aug 1794
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register



Di you have a DOB for him?

Baptism of Frederica Rebecca Chalon:

Name: Frederica Rebecca Chalon
Baptism Date: 18 Jan 1806
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Parent(s): Henry Bernard Chalon,
Sarah Chalon
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Not really i am working from my great great great grandmother who was Emily Caroline Watson. It says her mother was Frederica Rebecca Watson whose maiden name was Chalon. (she married Edward Coats Watson in 1831.) It says Frederica's father is Henry Barnard Chalon but i'm just not sure if it's the artist or not? Hope this is making sense!! Thankyou for looking.

Wikipedia:
About Henry Bernard Chalon -
His one child, a daughter, was the miniaturist Maria A Chalon (Mrs Henry Moseley, c. 1800–67).

London Baprisms:

Maria Ann Barnard Baptism 27 Sep 1797 St Pancras Old Church, Middlesex Henry Barnard,Sarah Chalon


Charlotte Mary Ann Chalon Baptism 22 Mar 1812 St Marylebone, Middlesex Henry Barnard Chalon, Sarah Chalon
Emma Elizth Chalon Baptism 18 Jan 1806 St Marylebone, Middlesex Henry Barnard Chalon, Sarah Chalon
Frederica Rebecca Chalon Baptism 18 Jan 1806 St Marylebone, Middlesex Henry Bernard Chalon, Sarah Chalon
Thomas Barnard Chalon Baptism 24 Aug 1800 St Pancras Old Church, Middlesex Henry Barnard Chalon, Sarah Chalon

Emily Caroline Watson
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1844
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1844
Father's Name: Edward Coats Watson
Mother's Name: Frederique Rebecca Watson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers


Regards Vera

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/willsdeathduties.asp

(above has a Will, Henry Barnard Chalon 1849. £3.50 to download)

Chris :)

Hey Lynne, thank you very much for looking all this up for me. Can you see why I'm confused? wikipedia says there is only one child but Maria A seems to be the sister of all the others? Also when looking at records on Frederica and Edward's marriage one of the witnesses is a Maria Anne? Can't really read what her surname says though!

Thank you Chris, will have a look.!!

Looks like Chalon to me Maria Ann Chalon

Regards Vera

1851 for info

1851 census transcription details for: 3, Lindsey Place, Chelsea

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1472 Folio: 5 Page: 2


Reg. District: Chelsea Sub District: Chelsea South
Parish: Chelsea Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Lindsey Place, Chelsea
County: Middlesex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
WATSON, Edward C Head Married M 40 1811 Veneer Cutter
St Pancras
Middlesex
WATSON, Frederica Wife Married F 39 1812
St Pancras
Middlesex
WATSON, Annette Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834
Chelsea
Middlesex
WATSON, Rose Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar
Chelsea
Middlesex
WATSON, Rose Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar
Chelsea
Middlesex
WATSON, Edward Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Chelsea
Middlesex
WATSON, Emily Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Chelsea
Middlesex
HASLEMON, Patience Servant Unmarried F 24 1827 General Servant
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
PROCTOR, Mary Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 General Servant
Ratcliffe
Middlesex

Looks like another birth:

Caroline Sarah Jose Chalon 12 Feb 1816 Henry Barnard Chalon,
Sarah Chalon St Marylebone Westminster

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Morning Post (London, England), Monday, February 13, 1860

Chalon- On 7th, of bronchitis, Sarah Chalon, relict of the late Henry Barnard Chalon Esq. and sister of the late James Ward Esq., R A.

Chris :)

1851



1851 census transcription details for: 32, College, Northfleet

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1609 Folio: 53 Page: 23


Reg. District: North Aylesford Sub District: Northfleet
Parish: Northfleet Enum. District: 1B
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, College, Northfleet
County: Kent

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
CHALON, Sarah Head Widow F 62 1789
Scotland
CHALON, Henry Bernard Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Secetary Out Of Employ
St Marylebone
London
CRABB, Ruth Servant Unmarried F 15 1836
Colne
Essex

Just can't seem to go forward on the Henry Barnard Chalon until i know it is definitely the same one. So far all i have is the Henry whose was the artist. Do you think Wikipedia could be wrong? All the children have the same mother who was called Sarah and married to Henry. It's beginning to hurt my head!!! Haha.

You should use caution with Wikipedia, once upon a day any one could change or add information to pages. Don't know whether that is the case now!!!!!

Lynne

Been following this with interest.

Chris Ho advised that his Will is on NA site. It really wouldn't harm to purchase it and see if there other children are mentioned.

Wikki entires are submitted, and yes there are errors. Its such a shame that it is the default search result.

Possibly why one daughter was called Frederica:


(b ?London, 1770; d London, 15 Aug 1849). English painter and lithographer. He was the son of a Dutch ?migr? engraver, Jan Chalon (1749-95). After studying at the Royal Academy Schools, London, the younger Chalon began to specialize in sporting and animal painting and was appointed Animal Painter to Frederica, Duchess of York, in 1795; he later fulfilled the same modest function for both Prince Regent

Thanks so much all of you. Yes i have downloaded the will but at the moment i cannot not understand much of it!!! Writing is a bit different from now! Haha. I have seen that Henry had another partner, wife? called Sarah whose surname was Wilson. They i think then had son called Henry too which shows that he must have had other children ( i think!!!) Soooo confusing!!! Thank you all very much just hope i get to work it out soon!

Seems the James Ward R A, mentioned in Death notice of Sarah, was a famous Artist too. Google brings up a lot of bits and pieces.

Chris :)