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Julius Simon 1830-1906

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Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 10:01

Please can I have some assitance for any information of Julius Simon , my grand fathers first wifes grandfather probably from manchester area and part of the Jewish community there.

Thanks in advance
Jeremy Young

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 10:06

Do you have any other information on him such as parents, siblings etc


There are only two people showing that match the name and age but they are in the London area?


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Julius Simon
Probate Date: 3 Nov 1906
Death Date: 27 Jul 1906
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

To Edgar Leon, Julian Henry Simon and Thomas Edward Partington £56875 6s 5d

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 10:13

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Julius Simon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1860
Registration district: City of London
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 227

Possible wife: Eliza Leon

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 10:15

Gins,

I have he married Eliza Leon (b1803-d1877) , Eliza's parents were Joseph Leon and Sarah Lucas. i am guessing with the Manchester area.

J

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 10:17

Eliza was his wife, (b1833-d1889) not as i put up above by mistake, oops.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jul 2012 10:30

1861

Name: Julius Simon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Simon
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Commercial Clerk

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 2
Folio: 37
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Simon 30
Eliza Simon 27
Beatrice Johanna Simon 3 Months
Alice Watson 22
Ellen Neville 24
Emily Currey 18

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jul 2012 10:35

1871

Name: Julius Simon
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Simon
Gender: Male
Where born: Han, India <<< Hanover, British Subject on actual image
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 27b
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 28
Folio: 7
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Simon 40 Merchant
Eliza Simon 37
Beatrice J Simon 10
Constance E Simon 8
Edgar L Simon 6
Marguerite B Simon 5
Julian H Simon 4
Horace F Simon 1
Ellen M Simon 1 Month
Anne E Wellhan 39 Servant
Frances Mabbott 21 Servant
Miria Minard 22 servant
Hannah S Neagle 28 servant
Mary Landen 31 servant
Emma Bulter 56 servant

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jul 2012 10:38

1881

Name: Julius Simon
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Simon
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanover Elle British Subject

Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 38 Princes Square
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Bank Manager

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 28b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 21
Folio: 117
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Simon 50
Eliza Simon 47
Beatrice J. Simon 20
Constance E. Simon 18
Marguerite B. Simon 15
Horace F. Simon 11
Ellen M. Simon 10
Louisa Hilder 36
Elizabeth Bachr 46
Kati T. Roche 25
Emma Paul 22
Annie W. Paul 19

1891

Name: Julius Simon
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hannover

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthews
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Bank Managing Director

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 17
Folio: 85
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Simon 60
Edgar L Simon 26
Margarite Simon 25
Julian H Simon 24
Horace F Simon 24
Helen M Simon 20
Mary L Rayment 35
Clara Bullock 23
Amy M Slight 23
Ada E Squire 23
Gertrude L Johnson 19

Not seeing him on any census before 1861

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 11:01

Managing director Nat West Bank from then? seems like a big roller !

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 11:08

Did you see how much he left in his will........looks like owned the NatWest!


Have you got his parents names?


The names on the probate record are the executors, you can send for a copy of the will from the probate office - cost £6.00incl

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 11:11

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Eliza Simon
Probate Date: 3 Sep 1889
Death Date: 3 Jun 1889
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

Wife of Julius £584 11s 9d. Late of 38 Princes Square, Bayswater

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 11:20

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Leon
Name: Elizabeth Leon
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Isaac Leon
Mother's name: Sarah Leon
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: G Bloomby, Middlesex, England
[St George, Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England]

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1467
Folio: 20
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Isaac Leon 56
Sarah Leon 48
Elizabeth Leon 17
Emily Leon 10
Ellen L Baker 22
Edwin Loiner 30
Sarah Smith 29
Eliza Lomison 36
Elliner Hogase 40


1841 England Census
about Eliza Leon
Name: Eliza Leon
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St George Bloomsbury
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St Giles in the Fields
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 672
Book: 5
Folio: 12
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Leon 47
Sarah Leon 38
Eliza Leon 8
Edward Leon 6
Horatio Leon 5
Philip Leon 4
Emily Leon 1


Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 11:26

Her fathers probate record


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Joseph Isaac Leon
Probate Date: 27 Sep 1864
Death Date: 3 Sep 1864
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

To Sarah (widow) & Edward Micholls Leon (son) £70.000


1861 England Census
Name: Joseph J Leon <<Retired Merchant
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Leon
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Piece: 7
Folio: 17
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph J Leon 66
Sarah Leon 58
Edward M Leon 26
Horatio S Leon 25
Philip L Leon 23
Emily R Leon 20
Richard Cook 30
Elizabeth Perkins 28
Ellen Shaddock 28
Bridget McDermot 19
Minnie Rasbury 27


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jul 2012 11:57

The amount that Julius left in 1906 would be worth £5,445,212.50 So his father-in-law's £70,000 in 1864 would make him extremely wealthy!!

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 12:07

Very interesting Rootgatherer ! I was trying to do the same calculation! :-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Jul 2012 12:15

Thought you might want to know the worth of the father-in-law's estate.

Current data is only available till 2010.
In 2010, £70000 0s 0d from 1864 is worth



£5,370,000.00 using the retail price index

£41,600,000.00 using average earnings


And using the same calculator for Julius's estate.

In 2010, £56875 6s 5d from 1906 is worth:



£4,770,000.00 using the retail price index

£19,200,000.00 using average earnings




http://www.measuringworth.com/ppoweruk/



Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 12:43

Hang on a minute.......Julius was married before by the looks lof things


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Maria Ann Sapsworth
Spouse Name: Julius Simon <<Shoe Manufacturer
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Oct 1859
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Sapsworth <<Foreman in the London docks
Spouse Father Name: Siegfield Simon <<<Leather Seller
Register Type: Parish Register

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 12:47

And then this one!


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Maria Ann Sapsworth
Spouse Name: Julius Carr <<<Shoe manufacturer
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Aug 1860
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Sapsworth <<Foreman in the London Docks
Register Type: Parish Register

Same wit: Thos John ? and Mary Evans

Gee

Gee Report 12 Jul 2012 12:56

Must be a different Julius


1861 England Census
Name: Maria Ann Simon
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Julius Simon
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 249
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Simon 22
Maria Ann Simon 21
Louisa Maria Simon 4 Months
Susan Block 20

Her father is a couple of doors away


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Julius Simon
Probate Date: 29 Jan 1912
Death Date: 7 Jan 1912
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: London, England

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 Jul 2012 13:01

mmm interesting looks like the first wife Maria Ann Snapsworth died either from child birth or was knocked off when Eliza turned up with the money :-S