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Richard S Talbot (b.1839 Dublin) moved to London joined London Met Police. His father John (m. Lucinda in Ireland) was policeman in Ireland and am now stumped with no further leads. Can anyone help pls. :-0

Name: James Richard Talbot
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1871
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1871
Father's Name: Richard Stevenson Talbot (Policeman)
Mother's Name: Mary Talbot
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: John Talbot
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1869 (21st July)
Baptism Date: 11 Aug 1869
Father's Name: Richard Stephens Talbot (Policeman)
Mother's Name: Mary Talbot
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

1871
TALBOT, Richard S Head M 33 1838 Ireland
TALBOT, Mary Wife F 30 1841 Ireland
TALBOT, Eliza J Daughter F 5 1866 Ireland
TALBOT, John Son M 1 1870 Middlesex
Piece: 558
Folio: 82
Page: 36
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: Richmond Place
County: London, Middlesex

Chris :)

If this is him in 1861, then it states he was born in Dublin????

name: Rich S Talbot
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 21
relationship to head of household:
birthplace: Dublin, Dublin
record type: Vessel
registration district: Royal Navy At Sea And In Ports Abroad
sub-district:
ecclesiastical parish:
civil parish:
county: Royal Navy At Sea And In Ports Abroad
..................................................................

version ancestry:-

1861 England Census about Richd S Talbot
Name: Richd S Talbot
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Ordy 2 Cl (Ordinary Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: Dublin, Ireland
Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Nile
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4437
Folio: 148
Page Number: 28

And also in 1911:-

name: Richard Stevenson Talbot
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 71
birthplace: Ireland Resident, County Dublin
record type: Household
registration district: Edmonton
sub-district: Wood Green
parish: Wood Green
county: Middlesex

another version:-

1911 England Census about Richard Stevenson Talbot
Name: Richard Stevenson Talbot
Age in 1911: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil parish: Wood Green
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 69 Winkfield Rd, Wood Green N
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Pensioner Met Police Force
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: Wood Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 163
Piece: 7249
Household Members:
Name Age
John Talbot 41
Ellen Talbot 38
John Dymock Talbot 13
Reginald Talbot 11
Charles Walter Talbot 8
Richard Stevenson Talbot 71

Possible marriage?

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Richard Stephenson Talbot
Name: Richard Stephenson Talbot
Date of Registration: 1865
Registration district: Dublin North
Volume: 2
Page: 644 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101249

xxxx Mary Connor 1865 Dublin North xxxx
Hephzibah Dearl 1865 Dublin North
James Borbidge Doyle 1865 Dublin North
Margaret Anna Gregory 1865 Dublin North
William Turner Lawler 1865 Dublin North
William John Morris 1865 Dublin North
Rosetta Sumption 1865 Dublin North
xxxx Richard Stephenson Talbot 1865 Dublin North xxxx

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: TALBOT, Richard Stevenson
Address: 69 Winkfield Road Wood Green

TALBOT, John Head Married M 41 1870 Postman London Stepney VIEW
TALBOT, Ellen Wife Married14 years F 38 1873 London N Finchley VIEW
TALBOT, John Dymock Son M 13 1898 School London Hornsey VIEW
TALBOT, Reginald Son M 11 1900 School London Hornsey VIEW
TALBOT, Charles Walter Son M 8 1903 School London Hornsey VIEW
TALBOT, Richard Stevenson Father Widower M 71 1840 Pensioner Met Ireland Dublin Resident VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7249
Reference: RG14PN7249 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED4 SN163
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub District: Wood Green
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Wood Green
Address: 69 Winkfield Road Wood Green
County: Middlesex



Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
Climpson Thomas Edmonton 3a 499
DYMOCK Ellen Edmonton 3a 499

Found on familysearch.org (submitted entry):-

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name: Richard Stephenson /Talbot/
gender: Male
birth: 8 JUN 1839
Phibsborough, Dublin, Ireland
birth: 8 JUN 1839
Phibsborough, Ireland
baptism: 16 JUN 1839
baptismed
baptism: 16 JUN 1839
Baptismed
death: 3 JAN 1918
69 Winkfield Road, Wood Green, London
death: 3 JAN 1918
69 Winkfield Road, London
burial: 19 SEP 1862
Dublin Police
burial: Dublin Police
occuption 19 FEB 1866
Metropolitan Police
Parents
father: John /Talbot/
mother: Lucinda /Unknown/
Marriages (1)
spouse: Mary /Connor/
marriage: 10 FEB 1865
St Thomases Church, Marlborough Street, Dublin, Ireland
marriage: 10 FEB 1865
St Thomases Church, Ireland, Dublin
Show children (5)
Submission
submitter: knoakes1109278
submission date: 10 Sep 2003
submission id: MM7B-2RZ
person count: 763
Notes
Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824
DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Division 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Division 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Division 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Division 30**- Transferred to H Division 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Division 21 03 1892 - Retired

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Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824

DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Division 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Division 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Division 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Division 30 - Transferred to H Division 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Division 21 03 1892 - Retired

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Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824

DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Division 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Division 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Division 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Division 30 - Transferred to H Division 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Division 21 03 1892 - Retired

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Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway LondonSW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824

DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Divison 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Divison 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Divison 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Divison 30 - Transferred to H Divison 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Divison 21 03 1892 - Retired[main file- blumire.FTW]

Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824

DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Division 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Division 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Division 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Division 30 - Transferred to H Division 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Division 21 03 1892 - Retired

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Metroplitan Police Museum c/o room 1334 New Scotland Yard Broadway LondonSW1H 0BG 0181 305 2824

DUBLIN POLICE 19 09 1862 - Appointed C Divison 09 02 1865 - Resigned

METROPLITAN POLICE 19 02 1866 - Appointed K Divison 10 04 1879 - Promoted to PS (CID) 15 04 1879 - Transferred to P Divison 18 06 1879 - Transferred to K Divison 30 - Transferred to H Divison 28 03 1881 - Reduced to PC 29 03 1881 - Transferred to Y Divison 21 03 1892 - Retired

Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot [main file - Blumire.FTW]
Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot [main file- blumire.FTW]

Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot [Blumire (by nick).FTW]

Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot[main file- blumire.FTW]

Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot [Blumire (by nick).FTW]

Married by Rev Dr Stanford Witness - Matthew Fay & Mary Ann(e) Talbot

Source Citation
"Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SBQ4-QVJ : accessed 24 August 2012), entry for Richard Stephenson /Talbot/.

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Also gives a sibling:-

name: Mary Ann /Talbot/
gender: Female
birth: BEF 6 JAN 1842
Parents
father: John /Talbot/
mother: Lucinda /Unknown/
Submission
submitter: knoakes1109278
submission date: 10 Sep 2003
submission id: MM7B-2RZ
person count: 763
Source Citation
"Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SBQ4-WP9 : accessed 24 August 2012), entry for Mary Ann /Talbot/.

Wow, you're all fantastic. Wow Wow Wow! What you've done in one hour took me years, literally and yes your info is right. This is the Gen....we are looking for the Parents: father: John /Talbot/ mother: Lucinda /Unknown. The knoakes submitter is my cousin who helping in the search too but now we're stuck and can't go further with John Talbot & Lucinda ?? Hope to hear from you again. Regards Sue

Possible death for mother, Lucinda ????

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about Lucinda Talbot
Name: Lucinda Talbot
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Date of Registration: 1870
Death Age: 53
Registration district: Dublin North
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 7
Page: 385
FHL Film Number: 101585

....................birth date would be about correct, and place may also be correct so maybe worth looking into ?

"If" she died in Dublin North, then this could be the death of father, John:-

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about John Talbot
Name: John Talbot
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Date of Registration: 1875
Death Age: 63
Registration district: Dublin North
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 12
Page: 357
FHL Film Number: 101587

............although there is also this one:-

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about John Talbot
Name: John Talbot
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1894
Death Age: 86
Registration district: Dublin South
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 465
FHL Film Number: 101598

.............but that's if they stayed in Dublin??

Sorry, can't find a marriage for John and Lucinda :-(

Yes, me too, stumped. I live in Oz so its not as though I can go visit Dublin and research which I'd love to....Hey Catherine, really appreciate your help & the info. Sue :-) :-) :-)

Hi Susanne,
Try adding " Dublin, Ireland " to your heading instead of just (Ire) it may attract those who have access to more Irish records than most of us do.
Fingers crossed :-)

More info just in case you don't have it:-

1881
name: Richard Talbot
age: 39
gender: Male
birth year: 1842
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Constable Metropolitan Police
address: 25 King David Lane
census place: Shadwell, Middlesex, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341101
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 461 / 39
page number: 20
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Richard Talbot M 39 Ireland
wife Mary Talbot F 38 Plymouth, Devon, England
daughter Eliza Jane Talbot F 15 Ireland
son John Talbot M 11 Stepney, Middlesex, England
son James Talbot M 9 Stepney, Middlesex, England
son Richard Talbot M 7 Stepney, Middlesex, England

Source Citation
"England and Wales Census, 1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3GR-RLZ : accessed 24 Aug 2012), Richard Talbot, Shadwell, Middlesex, England; citing PRO RG 11/461 / 39 folio, p. 20, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 1341101.

.......interesting, this one gives Mary's place of birth as Plymouth, Devon but 1871
gives her place of birth as:-
Name: Mary Talbot
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard S Talbot
Gender: Female
Where born: Orklow, Ireland

........................................................................

Her death:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Mary Talbot
Name: Mary Talbot
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 183

1891:-

1891 England Census about Rich S Talbot
Name: Rich S Talbot
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Talbot
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Thoyledale Road

Occupation: Policeman

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 147
Folio: 39
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Rich S Talbot 51
Mary Talbot 50 - born: Plymouth, Devon
John Talbot 21
Jas R Talbot 19
Rich L Talbot 17

............also gives her birth place as Plymouth, Devon?
I'm just wondering if Mary Connor died and Richard married twice, to someone else called Mary???? :-S

Mary, on her own in 1901 (also gives place of birth as Plymouth):-

1901 England Census about Mary Talbot
Name: Mary Talbot
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth
Civil parish: Wood Green
Ecclesiastical parish: Wood Green St Michael
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Station Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 86
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1259
Folio: 59
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Talbot 61

.............so where is he?

Susanne
Check out CoI records on www.churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
You will find Baptisms for RST(1839) MaryA.(1842) Lucinda Jane (1844) and Edward Henry (1852).
Records show that Lucinda (Mother ) is down as Talbot but it appears none give the mothers maiden name....
There may be other children between Lucinda Jane (1844) and Ed.H (1852) but not necessarily b.Dublin

John (father) was a Policeman so he may not have been born/wed in Dublin...you can see from the Baptisms the family moved around the area.

RSTalbot MC to Mary Connor

Mary Connor's father was also a Policeman.

The witness' are Mathew Fay and Mary Anne "Pallot"...suggest it may be Mary Anne "Talbot"

(It appears from info.on another research site you may already have the above info.)

Dublin, Ireland (Phibsborough) is the place of birth. Am stuck with parent's information. :-)

Susanne...Who's place of Birth do you mean ?...We know that some of the children were Born and Baptised there are you referring to the parents...?