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Would anyone have access to the full 1841 census records or birth registrations for South Shields, County Durham? There is a Robt Fenton age 1 listed on the 1841 census for that district. Any information would be helpful in finding out if this is our ancestor. His middle name is possibly John and his parents are possibley Peter and Frances Fenton. Peter's occupation was possibly a mariner.
Thanks,
Diane, Australia

I think this is the one your refering to

1841 England Census
about Robert Fenton
Name: Robert Fenton
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Chester Le Street
Hundred: Chester (Middle Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Lamesley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fenton 7
Esther Fenton 15
Granger Fenton 10
John Fenton 50
John Fenton 15
Martha Fenton 45
Martha Fenton 4
Robert Fenton 1
Thomas Fenton 20
William Fenton 12

Thanks Clair,
We had almost ruled that one out, and now you have sent the full entry we are 99% sure it is not the correct one. There is a listing for a Robt Fenton, age 1, registration district Shields, South. We think this might be the correct one. If anyone has access to that record it would be great.

Thanks,
Diane, Aust.
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1851 England Census
about Robert Fenton
Name: Robert Fenton
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Francis
Gender: Male
Where born: Boldon, Durham, England

Civil parish: Whitburn
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Fenton 14
Francis Fenton 40
Peter Fenton 8
Robert Fenton 12

Hi Jim,

After years of searching I think you have found the right one for us. My Gran and Dad alway said he was born Sth Shileds, Sunderland. Boldon is in the middle between them. His death registration in Australia states that his mother was Frances (one above is spelt Francis). His father was listed as Peter, Mariner. Being a mariner could explain the fathers absence from the census.

Does anyone know if he is listed on the 1841 Census. Also how I can get information of his birth registration?

Thanks, Again,
Diane, Aust.
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Do you mean Peter, the dad? Well his birth would be before registration which started in 1837 and wasnt compulsory til 1875 so its a matter of checking parish records.

You could try familysearch.org IGI.

Added to last message. In the 1841 he was listed as ROBT not Robert
Diane

Sorry Heather, I'm new at bill boards, so I stuffed up.
Yes I was wondering if Peter was listed on the 1841 census. On the 1841 Robert was listed as ROBT.
I wanted to know how to get information on the registration of the birth of Robert Fenton, abt 1840.

thanks,
Diane

Right, well, IF it exists, you can look on freebmd website for the reference, once you have that you can buy it from GRO online for £7.

If Peter is listed in 1841 he will appear on the census under his name just as if he were at home. Unfortunately mariners at sea do not usually appear unless they are in port or they have a particularly diligent captain.

Im not sure why you are concerned about them shortening the name - its fine - you are fortunate to get a name that is recognisable at all!

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FENTON, Peter M 56 Durham VIEW
FENTON, Frances F 44 Durham VIEW
FENTON, John M 10 Durham VIEW
FENTON, Eliz F 4 Durham VIEW
FENTON, Robt M 1 (18 months) Durham VIEW
NUGEN, Edward M 21 Ireland VIEW
BARNES, Phillip M 24 Ireland VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
296 Book/Folio:
8/27 Page:
15

Registration District:
Shields, South Sub District:
Westoe EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Boldon Municipal Borough:
Address:
Boldon Village, East, Boldon County:
Durham

Above is 1841.

Ive just noticed there is a tree on ancestry for your family. This is the baptism note that they give for Robert:
Parents:
Peter FENTON
1785–1849
Frances EMMERSON
1794–
Robert FENTON
Born: 28 JAN 1840
East Boldon, Durham
Died:

Baptism

St Nicholas, Boldon, Durham

There is a further Fenton tree on there with a base in Aus - is that anything to do with you - I assumed not as you dont have ancestry?

Mistranscribed Peter is an ag. lab not a mariner
1841 England Census
about Peter Jenton
Name: Peter Jenton
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1785
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Bedlington
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Barnes 24
Eliz Jenton 4
Frances Jenton 44
John Jenton 10
Peter Jenton 56
Robt Jenton 1 6 Mo
Edward Miger 21

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 296; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Bedlington; County: Durham; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 27; Page: 15; Line: 13;

Sue, out of interest, where did you get your result - is that find my past? I note on the 1851 mum is shown as a widow and an ag lab.


Is this the right area for Robert:

Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
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Fenton Robert Chester le Street 24 34

Heather, yes. Every now and then it is easier to get results on Findmypast than on Ancestry......not always mind you!

Brilliant - I wanted to see the image for their ages when I saw your submission and I thought I must be going senile when it didnt come up under fenton. It was only when Jim said it was a mistrans that I realised Im not totally senile yet - LOL.

Its amazing how you can get some better results from the different banks of info. I havent bought credits on there for ages but recently they mail shot me and I had a look at the new London burials on there and wow, my GGFx4 shot up buried at a non comformist chapel in 1813 Southwark. I then found his wife and one daughter buried same place 1825. I was well pleased.

Hi Jim,
That is interesting to know. We got Mariner as the occupation for Peter from Robert's Death certificate. I'm not too sure about this last one you sent though. The spelling of the surname is incorrect, but the names and ages are right. Some of the information is different though to the reply from Sue C above. I supose it depends who transcribes the original records.

Thanks,
Diane

Diane
It is the same family.Check the reference numbers

The names on transcriptions are as good as the transcriber can read them - you need to look at the images yourself really. It may be worth you taking an ancestry sub for future research.

Did you see the info re the ancestry trees with him?

Thanks Jim, I just notices that also. As I said, it all depends on who transcribes the information. Mistakes are made.

Hi Heather, I've ruled out the Chester le Street Robert Fenton. I would be the one born in Boldon, Durham, England.

I will have to look for the other Fenton Tree. I assume it is in GenesReunited. I also have one listed as 'Fenton Family Tree' in GenesReunited and one on Ancestory.com

Diane