General Chat

Nothing wrong with being cynical Rob....it'd have been the same whoever was in power though....it must be a great job sitting at a desk deciding how many young men and women to send to thier deaths this month.

Great thread Postie Paul, As Grampa said sad but true. Seen as others are having their say I will say this about Blair and Bush backing each other, not at all surprising, but surely people don't think it would be any different if there was a Tory Government in power? As you say Postie Paul all Governments are the same. Pat x

We need to listen to our children more.........they see things in a plain and very uncomplicated truth!! Now Iraqi is half baked and Blair is picking up the pooh, he is turning his attention to Iran..............will we follow? I hope not . But hey lets ask our children they'll find the logic!! Much happiness Debi

Bush and Blair chose Iraq because of the first Gulf War. They thought that, because we fought Saddam then and everyone knew what an oppressive regime it was, the public would fully support them. Given the lack of planning regarding post-war Iraq, it appears they believed the Iraqis would be mightily pleased too. It was never about humanitarian reasons. Firstly, it is illegal to effect regime change because you do not approve of it (despite what America does). There is no way Bush and Blair could publically use regime change as a reason as this would be admitting to breaking international treaties. Secondly, the Kurds were gassed in the 1980s. Statue of limitations ran out on that years ago. If Blair cared so much about the Kurds, then why didn't he act in 1997 when he came into power? It was never about WMDs. Impartial agencies believed Saddam had de-armed. In 2000/2001 (before September) the Bush Administration stated that Iraq had no WMDs. A year later and they suddenly decide you can't move in Iraq without falling over jars of anthrax. It was a lie and they knew it, which is why they had to steal a thesis from the internet. It was about saving face. America got hurt. They looked weak and fallible. So they kicked out at Afghanistan and Iraq knowing full well those countries could not fight back. A more sensibvle approach would be to question why people hate America so much, but that would entail admitting that this is a monster America helped create. The irony is that Bin Laden received millions of tax dollars - the taxes paid by the the very people he helped kill.