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Goodmorning , Is my wife’s family really linked to Samuel Crompton the inventor of the spinning mule. They come from the right area, and there are some Crompton’s in the tree. But I can not seem to get any more information.

My wife’s Great grand farther Was James Quinlan, born 09/01/1861 in Bolton area. He married Mary Crompton 0n 08/02/1890 aged 22years, her farther was James Crompton, he worked as a Carter. On the 1901 census Mary is shown as from Bolton.
We Have not been able to look at the 1911 census, but should have two children at that point called Norah & Thomas. Has any one please got some way of checking back to Find out who Mary’s parents and grand parents were.

Thank you for any help

Joe

Is this them?

1891 England Census
Name: Mary Quinlan
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Farnworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
Household Members:
Name Age
James Quinlan 30
Mary Quinlan 23
James Filton 4

Thank you Ozi, I was told that James Filton was the son of
James's sister and husband Robert.

Joe

1911:

QUINLAN, James Head Married M 50 1861 Carter Lancashire Bolton
QUINLAN, Mary Wife Married 21 years F 43 1868 Lancashire Bolton
QUINLAN, Norah Daughter F 11 1900 Lancashire Farnworth
QUINLAN, Thomas Son M 8 1903 Lancashire Bolton
QUINLAN, James Son M 6 1905 Lancashire Farnworth

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23258 Reference:
RG14PN23258 RG78PN1359 RD461 SD1 ED7 SN184

Registration District:
Bolton Sub District:
Farnworth Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Farnworth

Address:
113 Bridgewater Street Farnworth County:
Lancashire

Dea x

Hi is this them

1911 census

Household information
Address 113 Bridgewater Street Farnworth
Parish Farnworth
Town Farnworth
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN23258 RG78PN1359 RD461 SD1 ED7 SN184
Administrative County Lancashire
Registration District Bolton
Registration Sub District Farnworth
Enumeration District 7
Householder 1
Name James Quinlan
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Occupation Carter
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Sponge Cloth
Place of Birth Lancashire Bolton
Nationality British
Householder 2
Name Mary Quinlan
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 21 Years
Total Children Born Alive 3
Children Still Living 2
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 43
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Bolton
Householder 3
Name Norah Quinlan
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Farnworth
Householder 4
Name Thomas Quinlan
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Bolton
Householder 5
Name James Quinlan
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lancashire Farnworth

Thank you Dea. That's the family, I did not know anything about the youngest child James, perhaps he died at a young age. I Its a shame Mary's parents were not living with them. Oh well.

Thanks again Joe

possible birth?

Name: Mary Ann Crompton
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 May 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: Great Lever, Lancashire,
Father's Name: James Crompton
Mother's Name: Ellen
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02959-5
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 2113085
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Hello Polly
Yes this is them. I don't Know who has died? I will try to find out. Thank you very much

Joe

Gael, That sound very possible. Great Lever is very close to Bolton & Farnwoth. I wonder if they are on the 1871 census.
thanks again Joe

Father is not a carter.

1871 England Census
Name: Mary Crompton
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 21 Halliwell Rd

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Little Bolton
Household Members:
Name Age
James Crompton 48 Cotton Spinner; Bolton
Ellen Crompton 46 - Housekeeper; Longwich
Thomas Crompton 25
Hannah Crompton 24
James Crompton 16
Mary Crompton 3
Robert Crompton 1
James Tower 18 - Son-in-law

Marriages Sep 1870
Crompton James Bolton 8c 373 <<<<<
Gillcrist Mary Bolton 8c 373
Towell Ellen Bolton 8c 373 <<<<<
Wood Andrew Bolton 8c 373

Does her marriage certificate give her address?

Who were the witnesses?

This looks like her with elder step-brother, Thomas.

1881 England Census
Name: Mary Crompton
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Half Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Little Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Taylor Court

Occupation: Paper Bag Maker

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Bolton Western
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Crompton 35
Hannah Crompton 34
Robert Crompton 11
John Crompton 8
James Crompton 3
Mary E. Crompton
Mary Crompton 13

Hi Christina, she was a domestic servant in Newport street, Great Bolton on the marriage cert, the witnesses were, Martin Delaney & Mary Ellen Quinlan. It also states on the cert that James Crompton (farther) was a Carter, Timothy Quinlan (James Quinlan's farther) was a tailor. James Quinlan was a grocers assistant
Thanks Joe

Hi Ozi
Thanks again, This is the right area again, so did james marry again, is Ellen his second wife?. On the marriage cert it states that James Crompton was a Carter, perhaps he took this job at an older age when cotton spinning became to hard? Thanks Joe

So no more clues from her marriage cert. then.

LOL. My grandfather was also a James Crompton from the Bolton area and he always claimed he was a descendant of Samuel Crompton......but then there are hundreds of Cromptons in that area.

When I first met my wife, who's family still lived in Bolton at the time. that was the same story, "we are descendants of Samuel Crompton you know". They said that one of Samuel's children or Grandchildren married below their status and was cut off. who knows, it is possible we are related. Thanks Joe

Is there a wedding record for James Crompton to either Ellen or his other wife that might help find his parents. or perhaps a baptism record.

Thanks Joe

I can not find a wedding record for James and Ellen, nor can I find them on the 1881 census, but as yet I can not see a death record either.

The version of the baptism that Gael had using lancs bmd showing James as an engine tenter (usually means in a cotton mill)

Baptisms: 3 May 1868 St Michael, Great Lever, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Crompton - Child of James Crompton & Ellen
Abode: Great Lever
Occupation: Engine Tenter
Baptised by: T. Loxham, Rector
Register: Baptisms 1851 - 1906, Page 43, Entry 343
Source: LDS Film 2113085

so if your James was a carter this looks like possibly the wrong family

this looks like that family in 1881

James CROMPTON Head M Male 42 D Lever, Lancashire, England Mining Engineer
Ellen CROMPTON Wife M Female 38 L Lever, Lancashire, England Wife
Mary A. CROMPTON Daur U Female 13 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Emily CROMPTON Daur U Female 11 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver (& Scholar)
James CROMPTON Son U Male 9 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Scholar
Samuel CROMPTON Son U Male 4 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Scholar
Enoch CROMPTON Son U Male 2 Gt Lever, Lancashire, England Infant
Samuel NUTTALL Boardr W Male 67 Farnwth, Lancashire, England Collier

Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Harcourt St
Census Place Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341912
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3814 / 7
Page Number 8