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patchem

patchem Report 15 Dec 2016 08:04

John,

Searching free bmd from 1841 to 1861 gives the marriage for James Claxton to Bets*
as the one that AustinQ has found and the only one that meets those criteria, so would have been a good place to start:

Marriages Jun 1846
Claxton James York 23 661
Groom Betsy York 23 661

and the 1851 census (at a quick look) gives his daughter Sarah as born in York.

mgnv

mgnv Report 15 Dec 2016 09:58

Going back to the original post

Here's my ggg grandparents and my gg grandparents. Note my ggg aunt is double counted

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 21 Schedule: 100
Address: Hill Of Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SLESSOR William Head M M 66 Farmer Of 15 Acres & Carrier Aberdeenshire - Longside
SLESSOR Christian Wife M F 52 Aberdeenshire - Old Deer
SLESSOR Mary Dau U F 26 Aberdeenshire - Longside
Page: 176/22 SLESSOR John D Son U M 17 Farmer & Carrier's Son Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Grndau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 10 Schedule: 52
Address: South Street, Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREIG John Head M M 32 Farm Servant Aberdeenshire - Fraserburgh
GREIG Margaret Wife M F 23 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Dau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG William Son - M 6m Aberdeenshire - Longside


I would guess the census forms were dropped off on the Wed or Thurs. They were to be filled out to reflect the situation on the Sunday at midnight, to be collected on the Monday.
Of course, some folk needed help filling them out, so they would probably get help from the enumerator on Mon., but many would fill them out in advance, and not always on the same day.
It's easy to imagine unexpected changes in the sleeping arrangements, and folk forgetting to amend the completed forms to reflect this.

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Under English common law, all that was necessary to effect a legal change of name is that you start using your new name, and this not be done with any fraudulent purpose.
In the case of minors (i.e., under 21s), the naming decision rests with the parent or guardian.
Note that naming a child has nothing to do with registering the child's birth.
One was legally required in 1883 to rego a birth. One was not required to name the child, e.g.,
Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Williams Female Lambeth 1d 489

nor does a pre-1969 b.cert actually give the child's surname.
The surname in the index is inferred from the surname of the father, or in the case of unwed parents with difft surnames both appearing on the b.cert, then there will be an entry for each in the GRO index.
Compare this index entry:
Births Dec 1874 (>99%)
Churchill Winston Leonard Woodstock 3a 695
with the actual b.cert on page 16 (of 24) at:
http://tinyurl.com/lrk36xp

My grandad changed his name - he added Younger (his mum's maiden surname)
Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Baldwin James Edward Gateshead 10a 888

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Baldwin James E Y Newcastle T. 10b 54

There was no paperwork - he just did it.
There was very little need for paperwork - the only thing in his old name was his tinsmith journeyman's ticket

Nowadays, one has more things in one's old name - G.C.E.'s, B.Sc.'s, driver's licence, bank accounts, etc., and people want to see a bit of paper.
The cheapest was to put an ad in the local paper, and xerox it multiple times.
The most widely known was to make a contract with oneself, and put a witnessed signature on it - i.e., a deed poll. One could register this, but this was rarely done - mostly one just shoved it in a desk drawer.

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Now jumping to the immediately previous post

Using http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/c

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLAXTON James GROOM Betsy St Denys, York York SDEN/1/155

John

John Report 15 Dec 2016 20:03

Thank you, I was looking for them in Norfolk no wonder I couldn't find them if they married in York