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Can anyone shed any light on Mary. She was born in Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1879 and emigrated to South African on her own where she met and married Christian James Smith. Mary was my grandmother. I can find a birth but this gives her father as Robert Henderson whereas I have a letter supposedly from her father giving persmission for her to marry and this is signed W. J. Henderson.

Mary H Henderson
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1879 Newcastle On Tyne,? Northumberland,? England
census: 1881 Newcastle Upon Tyne St Andrew,? Northumberland,? England
parents: Adam Henderson,? Annie Henderson


name: Mary H Henderson
age: 2
gender: Female
birth year: 1879
birthplace: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
address: 8 Elswick Court
census place: Newcastle Upon Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342220
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5059 / 128
page number: 20

Mary H Henderson
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1879 Newcastle On Tyne
census: 31 Mar 1901 St John,? Northumberland,? England


name: Mary H Henderson
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 22
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Newcastle On Tyne
record type: Household
registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
sub-district: St Nicholas
ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
civil parish: St John
county: Northumberland

Mary Jane Henderson
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 27 Jan 1879
christening: 20 Apr 1879 Alnmouth,? Northumberland,? England
residence: 1879 Northumberland,? England
parents: Robert Henderson,? Mary Ann Henderson


name: Mary Jane Henderson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Apr 1879
baptism/christening place: Alnmouth, Northumberland, England
birth date: 27 Jan 1879
father's name: Robert Henderson
mother's name: Mary Ann Henderson
indexing project (batch) number: C00575-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1564655

do you have her actual birth cert?

Civil Registration event: Birth

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Name: HENDERSON, Mary Horton
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1879
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 71

could this be her 1891
father william

HENDERSON, Wm Head Married M 45 1846 Metal Cleaner
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
HENDERSON, Jane I Wife Married F 43 1848
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
PINCHEN, Jane Daughter Married F 19 1872 Dressmaker
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
HENDERSON, Mary H Daughter F 12 1879
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW

Piece: 4206

Folio: 48

Page: 14

Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne

Civil Parish: Newcastle upon Tyne

Municipal Borough: Newcastle upon Tyne

Address: 53, Prudhoe Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne

County: Northumberland

Births Mar 1879

Henderson Mary Horton .. Newcastle T. 10b 71

This might match that record....?

Name: Mary H. Henderson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Adam Henderson
Mother's name: Annie Henderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne

Civil parish: Newcastle on Tyne St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Elswick Court
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5059
Folio: 128
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Henderson 25
Annie Henderson 23
Rebecca H. Henderson 6
Mary H. Henderson 2


But doesn't help overcome your name problem

Mary Henderson
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1878 Newcastle On Tyne,? Northumberland,? England
census: 1881 Westgate,? Northumberland,? England
parents: George Henderson,? Dorothy Henderson


name: Mary Henderson
age: 3
gender: Female
birth year: 1878
birthplace: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
address: 29 Hill St
census place: Westgate, Northumberland, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342217
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5048 / 34
page number: 62

What was her mother's name?

Maureen

when did she marry so she needed parental permission still

I've asked Barbara to return with some feedback

Thank you all for your efforts. I do have a birth certificate which shows a father as Robert, mother as Ann formerly Robson and an address as 5 Lambton Place, Newcastle. Family records show that she was born on 24th January, no year given. She died on 23rd November, 1944 age 63 which makes her date of birth 24.1.1879. The letter from her father states that she does not need permission for marriage but it was requested anyway. She married at St. Bree Church, Cape Town on 16th November, 1903.

so that could be her in my posting of 12.48 yesterday?

There's this one:

1881 census - Newcastle on Tyne St.Andrew - 14 Park Place

Robert Henderson - head - 39 - labourer - Newcastle
Ann Henderson - wife - 38 - France
Anna Henderson - dau - 16 - Newcastle
Robert Henderson - son - 13 - Newcastle
William Henderson - son - 11 - Newcastle
George Henderson - son - 9 - Newcastle
Jane Henderson - dau - 4 - Newcastle
Mary Henderson - dau - 2 - Newcastle

Maybe father, Robert, couldn't write, so William wrote the letter for him.

Ann Robson doesn't sound the name of someone born in France though.

Checked 5, Lambton Place, and there are no Hendersons living there by the 1881 census.

Have just noticed that on the 1891 census, Mary's siblings George and Jane Henderson are living with their married sister, Anna MacMahon at 5, Lambton Place.

This seems to tie them in nicely.

Can't see Mary though.

No - edit that - they're living at 7, Lambton Place

Marriage registration:

Robert Henderson married Anna Robson

Apr.Jun 1864 - Newcastle upon Tyne

This time it's definitely 5, Lambton Place

1871 census - St.Andrew Newcastle upon Tyne

Robert Henderson - head - 28 - cartman - Newcastle
Anna Henderson - wife - 27 - Newcastle (not France)
Anna Henderson - dau - 5 - Newcastle
Robert Henderson - 3 - Newcastle
William Henderson - 1 - Newcastle
Thomas Henderson - brother - 19 - Newcastle

The only Mary Henderson I can find at the moment, for 1891, born Newcastle, who is the right age, is:

Mary Henderson - age 12 - Newcastle

In the District Girls Village Home for Orphan, Neglected and Destitute Girls in Ilford, Essex (which is a couple of hundred miles from Newcastle)

I'm not sure she would have been in a home though. Although I can't find either of her parents, I would have thought that one of older siblings would have taken care of her.

Also, how would they know where to send the letter asking for permission to marry.

if she was definitively Mary Horton Henderson then its def the right birth as theres only the one.

Do you have her marriage cert?

Maybe it was her brother who wrote because her father couldn't write.

When/where did you get the birth cert please?

Did you (or family members) match it up with the most likely birth ? Sorry to ask! :-)

Maureen

Edit:
Rather than delete my moment of "doh-ness"-I'll just leave it. Really-how many Mary Horton Hendersons are there?
Mxx

I wonder if this is Mary's father

Robert Henderson - born approx. 1843 - died 1888 - Newcastle on Tyne


Do you know when Mary arrived in South Africa?