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Looking for any information about Doris dayer ,she was born in 1908 to parents Edgar and Rachel dayer , they have two other children Evelyn born in 1905 (dies 1905) and Martha born in 1906 ,Edgar dies in 1909 .rachel decides to have Minnie adopted in 1912 to a family called malenberg in litherland in Liverpool ,we think they take Minnie to either Canada or America after this time we can't find any more details about her ,her mum Rachel has another family with a man called Arthur Edwards ,my nan ( Martha ) never stopped looking for her and she died not knowing where she was , we would to find any relatives who have any information because my dad would love to know what happened to her

Why the names Minnie and Doris please :-)

So she was reg as Minnie

DAYER, MINNIE PLUNKETT
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 247

mmn Plunkett

Minnie was known by family as Doris ,have looked everywhere for any info but can't find any

Not seeing any of them on the 1911 census

The marriage of .Martha shows and the marriage of Rachel but not seeing them on the census

There are several trees on Ancestry that list the fostering of Doris and say she could have used several different surnames
One also says her last visit to bootle was c1931/2

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/17831963/person/562406288/media/6a740c4d-7461-4ccf-9681-c0b30107c24d

Thank you Shirley , I have the same details ,been looking for ages just can't find her anywhere .

The only Malenberg I can find in ref to Liverpool is this one who had a through ticket

travelling with Ingeborg Malenberg and another child

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) Lillian
Last name Malenberg
Gender Female
Age 2
Birth year 1908
Occupation CHILD
Departure year 1910
Departure day 7
Departure month 6
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Boston
Destination BOSTON
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Saxonia
Ship official number 110648
Ship master's first name E
Ship master's last name PENTECOST
Shipping line CUNARD
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port BOSTON
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 30441
Ship registered tonnage 9040
Number of passengers 1247
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, United States

baptism

Baptism: 6 Jan 1909 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Minnie Dayer - [Child] of Edgar Dayer & Rachel
Born: 19 Nov
Abode: 2 Bute Place
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: H. A. Wadman
Register: Baptisms 1905 - 1909, Page 82, Entry 652
Source: LDS Film 1546065

Posting this which you may have already, just for address

Baptism: 9 Jan 1907 St Thomas, Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Martha Dayer - [Child] of Edgar Dayer & Rachel
Born: 9 Nov
Abode: 37 Conway St
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: H. A. Wadman
Register: Baptisms 1905 - 1909, Page 42, Entry 336
Source: LDS Film 1546065

Edgar on the electoral roll 1908

G 876 Dayer Edgar 16 Langton road Litherland Dwelling-house successive 37 Conway stieet Seaforth
15 Langton road

? DAYER, RACHAEL - Order
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 557

The family have always thought that she was adopted in 1912 ,and she could of used different surnames dayer ,Edwards ,malenberg or Desmond ,also can't understand why she was adopted when her mum was pregnant at the time of the adoption ,and my nan ( Martha ) was kept ., especially after Rachel had lost a child Evelyn in 1905
Thanks for your help

Have you tried to contact the other people on genes who have her in their tree?

Yes ,they have the details I've got already ,thanks for the tip

Rachel must have been with Arthur Edwards in 1911, as this is the birth of their first son (per a tree on Ancestry) - although they didn't marry until 1927:

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
Edwards Arthur T mms Plunkett W.Derby 8b 650

Trees on Ancestry say Arthur was Arthur William Edwards, 1883 West Felton, Shropshire.
I can see him on all censuses up to and including 1901 (variously Arthur, William, and William A, with varying YOB's) - but not 1911.

I was just googling having read the info about Strand Rd being where they were in 1911 and there is info here from 2009
that may help helpers.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1138030?page=0

Alison are you in contact with the poster of that thread? Just wondering if looking for info on sister Naamah might help locate Rachel in 1911

Rachel was with Arthur in 1911 ,so can't understand why she would give a child away , but I don't know the circumstances,,thank you to everyone for the help ,will look up that thread thanks

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription

First name(s) Naamah
Last name Plunkett
Gender Unknown
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1874
Baptism date 20 Dec 1874
Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Ralph
Father's last name Plunkett
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Known as Amy
Print transcription View image
First name(s) AMY
Last name PLUNKETT
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1897
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ AMY PLUNKETT married one of these people
William Henry Bennett, William Austin
District West Derby
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 755
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain, England

Naamah mistranscribed as hannah in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 Waltham Road Cottage Hall L'Pool, West Derby, Lancashire, England

William H Bennett Head Mar Male Bricklayer Builders 34 1877 Lancashire Lpool Transcription
Hannah Bennett Wife Mar Female - 36 1875 Lancashire Lpool
William H Bennett Son - Male School 12 1899 Lancashire Lpool
Elizabeth Bennett Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Lancashire Lpool
Edith Bennett Daughter - Female School 8 1903 Lancashire Lpool
Henriettia Bennett Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Lancashire Lpool Tr
Hannah Bennett Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Lancashire Lpool
Alexander Bennett Son - Male - 4 1907 Lancashire Lpool

again a mistranscription



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rose Place, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Ralph Plunkett Half Brother (** actually says Head) Married Male 38 1853 Carter Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary A Plunkett Widow Married Female 28 1863 - -
Luke Plunkett Son Single Male 18 1873 Carter Lancashire, England
Hannah Plucknett Daughter - Female 16 1875 - Lancashire, England <<<<< NAAMAH
Ralph Plucknett Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Lancashire, England
William Plucknett Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Lancashire, England
Mary A Plucknett Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Lancashire, England T
Rachel Plucknett Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Lancashire, England <<<<<<<
Emma Plucknett Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Lancashire, England
Richard Plucknett Son - Male 0 1891 - Lancashire, England
Dorothy Lees Mother In Law Widow Female 82 1809 - Lancashire, England