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Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:03

Have you got this LK


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Annie Louisa Beggin
Name: Annie Louisa Beggin
Probate Date: 10 Jan 1929
Death Date: 24 Nov 1928
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London

To Margaret Beggin £1217 14s 5d

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:10

And is this the son?


Name: BEGGIN, BERNARD WILLIAM
Initials: B W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Essex Yeomanry
Age: 21
Date of Death: 11/05/1915
Service No: 1350
Additional information: Son of Bernard and Annie Beggin, of Selwood Lodge, Elm Place, Fulham Rd., London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 5.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:19

????


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Bernard Callahan Biggin
Name: Bernard Callahan Biggin
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 113 (click to see others on page)

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:21

1881 England Census
about Bernard Biggin
Name: Bernard Biggin
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Biggin
Gender: Male
Where born: London Hoxton, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 120 Long Hedge Lane

Occupation: Clerk

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Snenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Biggin 44
Bernard Biggin 17
Margaret Biggin 19
Francis Biggin 14


Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:22

1871 England Census
about Bernard Biggins
Name: Bernard Biggins
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Radford
Sub-registration district: Snenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Callahan 64
Thomas Callahan 36
Daniel Callahan 29
Mary Callahan 34
Margaret Biggins 9
Bernard Biggins 7
Francis Biggins 4


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 09:28

ThankS for probate record Ginny

It is possible BernArd was related but the address does not match with Reggie's address from his army records.

1901 census - household transcription
Person: BEGGIN, Bernard W
Address: 117, Provincial Police Orphanage, London Road, Betchworth
BEGGIN, Bernard W Inmate M 7 1894
Sutton Scotney Winchester
Hampshire


I am sure I came across a policeman yesterday

Dea

Dea Report 18 Mar 2011 09:34

That looks to be the son's death Ginny in 1915, but the middle name is different than the one I was looking at?

I thought I had posted these births above but I obviously hadn't connected properly with the submit button!

This is what I was going to post:

These are the children's births, so Bernard's death would fit?

Note the children are registered as BIGGIN !

Births Jun 1896
Biggin Reginald George Winchester 2c 121

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Births Jun 1897
Biggin Margaret Winchester 2c 109

IF these are correct then Reginald' middle name should be 'George' ??

..... That death still does look good though !

Dea x

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:38

Id say the death you posted is the elusive Bernard as the son was born Winchester too


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Bernard William Biggin
Name: Bernard William Biggin
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Winchester
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 106


Death cert LK!!!!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 09:39

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BEGGIN, Bernard
Address: 30 Stockbridge Road Lower Winchester
MASTERS, Edward C Head Married M 31 1880 Clerk Hants Winchester VIEW
MASTERS, Lily O Wife Married
7 years F 30 1881 Devon Plymouth VIEW
MASTERS, Gwendolyn L Daughter Single F 6 1905 Hants Winchester VIEW
MASTERS, Reginald E Son Single M 3 1908 Hants Winchester VIEW
BEGGIN, Bernard Boarder Single M 17 1894 Clerk Wonston Hants VIEW
BEGGIN, James Boarder Single M 16 1895 Clerk Wonston Hants VIEW
SACREE, Grace Servant Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Medstead Hants

If Bernard was an older sibling already at school in 1901 it looks like therre was another one too.

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2011 09:42

Id say the death you posted is the elusive Bernard as the son was born Winchester too


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Bernard William Biggin
Name: Bernard William Biggin
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Winchester
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 106


Death cert LK!!!!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 09:46

daughter's marriage

maybe
Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%)
Beggin Margareet Davies Fulham 1a 710
Davies William G Beggin Fulham 1a 710

and son

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Reginald George Beggan Name: Reginald George Beggan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 19
Residence: 4 Molesford Rd, Parsons Green S W
Document Year: 1915
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of images: 5



Army service records confirm mother's name and address

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
about Reginald George Beggin Name: Reginald George Beggin
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1949
Burial Date: 20 Apr 1949
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brompton Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 09:48

There is this one in the area but says he is single and not born Hampshire

1891 census - household transcription
Person: BEGGINS, Bernard
Institution: 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards And Army Service Corps, Chelsea Barracks London S W
BEGGINS, Bernard Private Single M 28 1863 Soldier 1 Bn Coldstream Guards
Co Durham Gateshead

Dea

Dea Report 18 Mar 2011 09:54

LK - Which Reginald are you following from the 1911 - I am getting confused now (tee hee).

I thought this one was 'your' Reginald:



Person: BEGGIN, Reginald
Institution: Reedham Orphanage, REEDHAM ORPHANAGE

BEGGIN, Reginald Resident M 14 1897 School Hants Winchester

RG14PN3281 RD39 SD1 ED11 SN9999

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Coulsdon Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Coulsdon

Address:
Purley R S O Surrey County:
Surrey
.................................

and Margaret in the same area:

Person: BEGGIN, Margaret
Institution: Royal Female Orphan Asylum Orphan School,

BEGGIN, Margaret Scholar F 13 1898 School Hants Kingsworthy

RG14PN3462 RD39 SD6 ED45 SN9999

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Mitcham Enumeration District:
45 Parish:
Royal Female Orphan Asylum

Address:
Beddington Park Beddington Near Croydon County:
Surrey

..................

Bernard William died in 1893 - before they were born so it must be the
1897 death which would be the father of the two above.

Dea x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 10:02

and this marriage is sam year and place as Annie
Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
BIGGIN Bernard St Geo H Sq 1a 844
Millett Elizabeth St.geo.h.sq. 1a 844
SCOBELL John Frederick St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 844

Dea

Dea Report 18 Mar 2011 10:16

That's the marriage LK - Found this on another site:

BIGGIN Bernard St George Hanover Square.1a 844 3 1890

HENSON Annie Louisa St George Hanover Square.1a 844 3 1890

MILLETT Elizabeth St George Hanover Square.1a 844 3 1890

SCOBELL John Frederick St George Hanover Square.1a 844 3 1890


Records 1 - 4 of 4

Dea x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 10:26

Those are the the 2 children who were with Annie in 1901 Dea.
Gins cane up with apossible 3rd but also in police orphanage scool in 1901
And finding him in 1911 gives apossible 4th.

But if Bernard is the father where is he 1891?
If he is the soldier why is he not listed as married?
If Bernard is the father the death looks right but still nothing to definitely link them all together Except Reginald giving his address for his Army record as Molesford Road. If the younger Berbard is Reginalds brother why has he listed a different address?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 10:36

Possibly James

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about James Arthur Beggin Name: James Arthur Beggin
Residence: Redhill
Death Date: 15 Nov 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Armoury House
Rank: Private
Regiment: Honourable Artillery Company
Battalion: (Infantry)
Number: 2929
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 10:38

Great Dea that looks better. but still some unanswered questions. Why is it not on London marriages?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 18 Mar 2011 10:52

Gins
you posted this birth and census but

this death would correspond to him


????


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Bernard Callahan Biggin
Name: Bernard Callahan Biggin
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 113 (click to see others on page)

1871 England Census
about Bernard Biggins
Name: Bernard Biggins
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Radford
Sub-registration district: Snenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Callahan 64
Thomas Callahan 36
Daniel Callahan 29
Mary Callahan 34
Margaret Biggins 9
Bernard Biggins 7
Francis Biggins 4


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Bernard Callan Biggin Name: Bernard Callan Biggin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 19
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 156 (click to see others on page)

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Mar 2011 11:05

Morning ladies and gents.

Could someone do a favour please on the GR discussion board on FB? There is a thread about Coplins from Sheppey, created by Nigel with that surname. Someone added to it about 17/18 hours ago, asking about a Blanche Emma Dines. I’ve tried to create an anonymous account, hopefully successfully, but now I can’t find the discussion. If anyone can, could they post this for me please?
………………
Blanche Emma Dines (1883 3Q Sheppey 2a 874) was probably the daughter of Alfred Dines 1861 and Emily James 1862 – married 1882 Sheppey 3Q 2a 1354. Blanche married (according to FreeBmd 1910 1Q Sheppey 2a 1610) Frederick James Coplin.
According to census, Alfred Dines 1861 was likely to be the brother of your Edward Dines 1865. Their parents were George Dines c 1828 and Elizabeth Ann Ransley c1830. You need to double check via census and other records, but that ought to give you a starting off point.

DET
………………

Thank you ever so.